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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends and welcome to episode 957 of the Juicebox Podcast.

On this episode I speak with Bill the father of a child with type one diabetes. And then partway through the episode Bill hands the microphone to and his wife. The entire thing happens while Anna's cleaning the refrigerator. While you're listening. Please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan or becoming bold with insulin. Start your day with ag one drink ag one.com forward slash juice box. If you're looking for a Dexcom on the PA G voc hypo pen, a contour meter us med touch by type one Athletic Greens better help or cozy Earth go into your podcast player into the shownotes. And there are links there for all of the sponsors. You can also find those links at juicebox podcast.com. When you click on one of my links, you're supporting the production of the podcast and keeping it free and plentiful. Don't forget to check out the diabetes Pro Tip series and all the series that are available in the podcast there at juicebox podcast.com. We're in the feature tab of the private Facebook group. This episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by cozy Earth. Get yourself the same towels I use the sweatpants I wear and the sheets that I sleep on and so much more at cozy earth.com. When you use the offer code juice box at checkout, you will save a full 40% off of your entire order. 40% off your entire order at cosy earth.com Hello. Hello. Hello. Yes. Bill. How are you? Perfect.

Bill 2:06
Good. How are you?

Scott Benner 2:09
Can I be honest with you? Sure. I've been sick since Saturday for sure. The week or so prior to that. My son and I would look at each other once in a while ago. Do you feel okay? He'd be like, Oh, I thought I was gonna get sick today. But then I didn't. Like my wife came home from Paris with COVID. Okay, he had to go there for work. She came home, she was fine a day or two or three later. She's like, I don't feel good. She's like, let me you know, I'm gonna get away from everybody. And let's get me a COVID has to be, you know, be sure none of us have ever had COVID before. And so sure enough, she has it. And we my satellite just without, excuse me, I'm sorry. There's so many noises over here. That won't be happening in a minute. My son, my son and I without any concern for her at all. Just jam her into a bedroom and we're like do not do not come out of there. Like No way. Yeah. If you're really lucky, we'll bring food, you know, but if you come out, you know, that's it, we'll burn the house. So she's in there for five solid days. We're doing fine. You know, it's sucks and all. But um, but nobody's sick. And she tests negative. And she says, Well, I'm negative. It's you know, the CDC says, this is long enough. I'll stay in here another day. And I was like, Okay, so the next day goes by she goes by I feel terrific. And I was like, great. Okay, so she kind of re acclimates into the house. Yeah, 36 hours later, she goes, I don't feel good. And we are like, what the? Are you serious? So she's just, we chambre back in the in the room, but I'm guessing the damage was done. Because for the next three or four days, like everyone's will on hold, be like, I thought I was gonna get sick today. But then I didn't. And I said, Oh, I've had that feeling a couple of times. So Saturday comes and he just, he's dizzy. And I'm like you already because I'm not okay. And he goes and lays down. I don't see him again. And, and I don't feel good that day. And then the next day, I'm not okay. And he's getting worse. And then Monday and Tuesday and we test ourselves and we don't have COVID and our symptoms super look like this RSV that's going around, like everywhere. So we think that's probably it, you know, and nothing just sick. In the evening. It's the weirdest thing but like I get up in the morning, I don't feel good. In the middle of the day. I'm okay. I get a little tired at night, can't sleep. And then around 11 or 12 o'clock my body gets super hot and I stay up all night and I can't sleep. It's happened three nights in a row. Well, I fall asleep I guess four or five o'clock in the morning. So anyway, last night around, I don't know what time it was one or two in the morning my wife has just taken other COVID tests like I stuck it my nose stuck it in the thing and the line popped up immediately.

Bill 5:13
Immediately Yeah, that's that's about that sounds about right we all had it back in January. I will accept my wife Believe it or not she I don't know how she didn't get it. But we all had it. And immediately if there was a waiting around it, we all popped two seconds. Two seconds at that line. So and I'm in sales so anytime I you can hear it to me I actually have a head cold. I woke up this morning with a head cold because it seems like with three kids there's somebody has been sick in this house with something for the last two months. It's just somebody's stuffy somebody's coughing. Something's going on. Yeah. And I, I got it again. And but so I have to test all the time for COVID. I was negative. But yeah, when we hadn't exactly right. But it sounds like you're, well, you're fortunate enough to go to what two and a half, almost three years? Yeah. Well, I

Scott Benner 6:00
mean, I listen to I didn't like being in my house. But I was very healthy. I was very healthy touring. But now geez, I mean, look. I recorded an episode. You'll be people will hear this. We are recording Bilbo I'm sorry. Well, people will hear this just like forever after this happens. But I did an episode for Jeeva hypo pet and me and Jenny did kind of like an instructional episode about how to use the pen and reasons why you'd want to tell people about your diabetes and how to help you with glucagon and you know, kind of stuff that probably falls through the cracks for people like that. But it was a but it was a business arrangement. And so you know, there are four people on this recording from companies and everything. I just get up. Like, I get on the thing. And I say to people, like I'm so sorry, I have a blanket here. You might see me wrap the blanket around myself during this you will not I swear you won't hear it on the recording. I did a really good job. But the exact opposite happened. We started talking and I just broke out. I looked like I was kicking heroin. Like I was just sweating like a waterfall. And yeah, and people I know are looking at me going like, this ain't gonna work out. But I did it. But I was pretty good. I was pretty impressed with myself. But it was.

Bill 7:20
Yeah, you pulled through it. I was I had it the worst. That's how I was my first night. I mean, I was just like you said shivering wrapped up. And I'm a I'm a big guy. I'm a former college football player. So you know, I I feel like I can take pain. Even my wife will tell me that I'm the typical, stereotypical dad who is tough 99% of the time, but the minute you're sick, you're kind of a wuss, but it kicked my butt. I was sweating and shivering and chills and couldn't get warm. And it was it was something else for a few days.

Scott Benner 7:49
Well, it's interesting how owning like your own business, like if this podcast was, if it was somebody else's, I would have called them three days ago and be like, I'm sick. Yeah, good. Good luck. I don't know how you're gonna do it. I'm not coming. But when it's me, like I got up this morning. And I was like, I'm like, alright, you, you ask, like, get moving. Like you get I'm like getting a shower, wake yourself up, like, go, go, go. You're broke out in a sweat. You'll deal with it later. Like, I It's funny. You know what, Bill, I'm sorry. After this, we'll introduce you and get going. But my dad, like my dad bailed on us when I was pretty young. Like, I was like, 13. And I don't I never thought I took a ton of like, I don't know, examples from him. Other than, you know, don't treat people like this. But yeah, there's this one thing when I was a little kid, I remember he if he was sick, he went to work. Just like he just did it. And I and I remember being in this kitchen of our house one time and I and I was like watching him get I must have I must have been like this my whole life like this. I have a real concern for other people. And like, I'm watching him get ready to leave for work. And I said that I think you should stay home. You're really sick. And he goes, No, no, I want to save my sick days for something good. And I was like, what now? And he goes, I'm gonna be sick today no matter what Scott might as well go do it somewhere where they're paying me. All right. Oh, man, go get it. You know, like it'd be I now I think back. He was probably like, he's probably like, 3840 years old, you know? And he was yeah, he's like, listen, I only get a few of these days. I'm not wasting them on laying around the house.

Bill 9:32
Okay, very true. Yes. It's very funny.

Scott Benner 9:35
So, anyway, I'm sorry. We had this whole conversation before we started. I just want to tell you Oh, you're wearing I'm wired headphones. Is that right?

Bill 9:44
Correct. Yeah, I'm actually attached to my iPhone with the wireless. That's cool. Can

Scott Benner 9:47
you just do me a favor like when you're moving the cable the the wire side with the mic is robbing something. So if you keep keep that from happening, that'd be terrific. Why don't you just introduce yourself? Are you talking?

Bill 10:01
Okay? Hi, my name is Bill stalker from eastern Pennsylvania. I have a daughter Sylvia, who is type one diabetic. I have two other children as well. Sophia Weston and married to my wife, Andrea.

Scott Benner 10:16
Alright, so you have Sophia type one, is

Bill 10:18
that right? No, so Silvia is type one.

Scott Benner 10:22
This might go like this a little bit today.

Bill 10:25
It's quite alright. their name, their name. Their names are so close. It's Sylvia and Sophia. So they're, you know, it's very, very easy to get them confused, but no, Silvia is type one and she'll be 13 next week, actually.

Scott Benner 10:35
Oh, happy birthday, Sophia. younger, older.

Bill 10:38
Sophia is younger. She's 15 months younger. Okay, because she's 11 right now. All right.

Scott Benner 10:42
And your wife, your wife,

Bill 10:47
okay? Yes. And then Weston, my son Weston, who's eight years old.

Scott Benner 10:51
You have a boy though. Okay. All right. So three kids, a wife, one type one diabetes. Okay, how long ago was she diagnosed?

Bill 11:01
She was diagnosed actually, we're coming up on her diversity in three days. So Rocktober 30 at the 2015

Scott Benner 11:12
Well, 60s 70s Okay. Wow. A good long time right before Halloween.

Bill 11:17
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. It's the poor kid was in the hospital over you know, you're hospitalized for three days while they get everything situated and they had trick or treat on the on the pediatric floor. And this poor kid has been diagnosed with diabetes while everyone's trick or treating. And, you know, God bless their hearts. The Lehigh Valley Hospital didn't know much. You know, they didn't, didn't realize what was going on. But they had a funny event plan for the kids. And my kid was newly diagnosed with diabetes,

Scott Benner 11:44
lots of low snacks. That's all. Yeah, it just that what they should have thought it was like, no, not the chocolate. I'll take anything with sugar please. Just a Skittle in there something. Exactly. Wow, that's and that's a that's a long time ago. already? Yeah. Does it feel like it's been a long time.

Bill 12:05
It doesn't mean it just becomes you know, your, your instincts kind of kick in, it just becomes a part of life. It's, you know, it's always been a part of her at first. You know, it was like, we kind of had four kids, you we had the three kids and then diabetes, you know, where we had to make sure we you got to make sure everyone's packed and shoes are tied. Everyone's going to the bathroom. But then you add your backpack? Do you have loads do you have at the time, glucagon do you have this? But now it's everything's just second nature. And we're blessed. But Silvia, she kind of took over with her, you know, helping to run it at an early age by, you know, six or seven. She was doing things on her own. That was just we were just blessed to have and she had such a positive attitude about it. Wow. So it's really it has not, you know, we look back and say, Wow, I can't believe it's been seven years because it just it hasn't. It's kind of flown by just like any other, you know, any other day or year. What the wait

Scott Benner 12:57
time? Yeah, you're not the primary caregiver, the kids or you are.

Bill 13:03
I'm not No, I work and my wife stays home and she's a primary caregiver for the

Scott Benner 13:06
kids. So this is for me than your perspectives. Much different than what I get normally. So I really want to hear if you don't mind, I'm going to ask you first to tell me you don't even cuz your perspective, I usually hear Bill I usually hear I called my husband at work. And I told him, We got to get the kids to the hospital. Like that's how the story goes. 80% Yeah. So how about for you? Like what was the lead up? Like, and how did you realize that? Sylvia had type one, the whole thing.

Bill 13:34
So it's, you know, it's kind of we've even before and after, while I work I've always been fortunate enough to at an early age and the kids came to be home a lot with with work. I've always coached the kids and so we've we've been a real close team, you know, I've had like growing up, my dad worked 1216 hours a day. So while he coached us, it when my mom really kind of helped take care of us. But we've been involved. I've been involved with it a lot. But Andrea, my wife does so much of it, but she leading up to it. We had just moved. So Sylvia, we moved to school districts, we didn't move for only a couple of miles, but we had changed school districts, so it was changing schools. And we just started started to see and notice some behavioral changes. Excuse me, I'm going to walk around a house here to get a drink of water here. So we started notices of things. So it was always the nicest kid she was always very patient. You know, everybody always said and this is mine, kind of how I recognized it. And some of the things my wife noticed differently. She had always been a great color, right? So everyone says about her kids, oh, she's such an artist, but she would always call color in the lines and be very patient. We noticed that started to change sometimes, you know, she would kind of just get frustrated easily or get frustrated with your sister. You know, think things start like if she was coloring she would walk away from it. Because it wasn't as neat as it was she was my wife started noticing on By using the bathroom a lot more. She one night we had caught her in the bathroom, drinking out of the faucet, just shoveling water into her mouth. She was so thirsty. The tip, the typical signs, and my wife had kind of picked up on it earlier than me, you know, those are some of the things I noticed. And of course, a dad coming home just saying she's fine. She's just, you know, she's changing mentally. She's just having an issue changing schools. She's having a hard time, you know, changing. She's moved from her old house for the first time she's ever known to a new, bigger home. When my wife really started looking into it and had an idea. When it happened, she let's just say it was a shock. But Andrea wasn't wasn't fully surprised. Yeah,

Scott Benner 15:40
it's interesting to just see how I always again, I always hear that story from the other side, like, you know, I was seeing it happen, but my, but the person from outside of the house who's coming, you know, who's not there during the day to see all the little quirky things happen. That person either does what you did, or they come in and they have like the flip perspective where they're like, I don't know, we should check because I don't know what you're talking about. It's it's the coloring thing. Yeah,

Bill 16:07
yeah, it's something it's something that I've noticed that that I, I can see it in my there's a specific time where we she was sitting at, we have a nice bench table in the dining room, and she was sitting there. And she just got up and walked away from it. And she kind of snapped at her sister a little bit. And I just looked at the drawing and it just the coloring wasn't what it used to be. And she because she she was having a having a hard time. You know, obviously focusing she was having headaches and her blood sugar is being so high and she just having a hard time focusing and looking at these drawings. And it just changed. It went from inside of the lines beautiful. We have actually some of her art when she was a kid hanging up in our house to just coloring outside the lines and just filling it in or this is going to be green. So I'm just going to scribble it in green, as she would just get up and walk away from it. She didn't have the concentration. She did not she could not sit down and focus on it. She couldn't

Scott Benner 16:54
so then how does that translate to medical care? How do you decide we should take her to a doctor

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Bill 19:22
Yeah, so we so we have it's funny again, this is all around Halloween. So she was scheduled to go to a Halloween parade at her school that day. And we were it was any typical Friday, my wife was gonna take the kids in the school, go to the parade. I was. I was home a little bit early. So I was waiting to for my dad get off work. My dad and I my dad's younger he hadn't even he was 20 So we're, we're very close. So he him and I were going to go out and watch some sports and she was gonna take the kids to the physical so she decided to have a doctor's appointment for Sylvia's Hey, I'm just gonna take her to the doctor's give her a physical kind of see what's going on. So okay, so let's get that she she had her costume Halloween costume in the car ready to go, we're gonna go from the doctor's back to the house back to school and figure it out and then it just kind of all fell apart from there. Yeah. That Andrea kind of knew. That's why she took her in for the physical and the doctor. The doctor kind of knew right away as well that something's something's not right. It's probably it could be the timing of juvenile diabetes. Yeah.

Scott Benner 20:22
And he told he told Andrea that right in the doctor's office.

Bill 20:26
Yeah, if you don't mind Andrews Andrews here, she's just a little shy on on talking on so and the doctor told you at the office, correct? Yeah. Yeah, we they kind of knew what they knew over the phone even over the phone. They know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So so the symptoms that that end was giving to the doctor, they kind of knew I gotcha. Okay. So what they wanted her to come in and do the finger stick and just kind of confirmed what their what their thoughts were and then I got the call from from and that they were heading out to the Valley Hospital.

Scott Benner 20:54
What was the Halloween costume

Bill 20:57
it was a we have also pictured it was a bad girl costume. It was a pink back girl costume. And we have a picture I think the day before even the date of the day before she had it on in front of our in front of our garage. And she has she's standing in this powerful you know, super woman type stance with her arm pointed up in the air like showing off and we we've used that on certain things we've done for diet. You know if she's ever done a poster for diabetes or pictures for it, that's kind of been our, our poster of you know, it's a super, you know, here she is dressed as a super woman. And the day after or the next day she's you know, yeah, giving, giving her she's given her kryptonite right the next day.

Scott Benner 21:37
Something else? Oh, wow. Okay, so how long did they keep her at the hospital?

Bill 21:42
She was in hospital? Three, four days. Okay. Yeah, it was it was over a weekend. So the staff was like, right, there weren't specialists there over the weekend. It was, it was it was rough. I mean, we had great support from friends and family that we just didn't, you know, didn't expect. We had cousins show up to bring their kids to visit Silvia, we had a lot of support. So it made it made it easier. Especially my wife, you know, and she's, it's, like I said, I was distracted with with work and the other kids and she was at the hospital whole time with Sylvia. Yeah. But we were we had a great, great group of support. We did,

Scott Benner 22:20
how does that work backwards? Well, while she's at the hospital learning, is she calling you and filling you in? Is she taking notes and saying I'll come home and explain all this? Or did she feel like it was going to be her thing? Primarily, like,

Bill 22:36
No, we did it together. So I would be so we had, again, we're fortunate that we've a lot of family that live in the area. So you know, we'd have my mother in law helped us out a lot. She was here with the kids during the day, my mom would help as well. So we had a lot of help where I would then go out to the girl to the hospital. And I'd spend four or five hours there with with Andrea when they did when they had meetings that they were going to explain things like that, I would make sure I'd get there as well. And I had a job at the time that was really supportive of it. You know, take whatever time you need, learn everything. So we were kind of there side by side learning everything as it went along. Now emergency I would come home at night about nine o'clock at night to the other kids get them ready for bed and and then, you know,

Scott Benner 23:20
you were doing the functional stuff at the house. Yeah,

Bill 23:24
absolutely. And she she would get she would get through the, through the nights with Sylvia and then I'd come back out once the kids got situated. And we would head back out to the hospital with Andrew.

Scott Benner 23:36
Was there any indication? As far as family line goes that you were looking for type one diabetes?

Bill 23:44
Well, my brother's my brother is type one. So my my younger brother is type one diabetic. But other than that, I mean, we weren't really looking for any we've had. There's some type to through sprinkled throughout the family. But there's nobody that we directly know on, you know, that we've dealt with. I mean, we never really recognize it. Even with my my brother. He always lived. He didn't live in the area. So we weren't really

Scott Benner 24:10
sure. How old was he when he was diagnosed?

Bill 24:13
He was 17 or 18. He was a freshman in college. So he was diagnosed later in life, and you're how much older than he? I'm four years. So I'm four years older. He were so adult

Scott Benner 24:25
and he was just getting into college. Okay,

Bill 24:27
correct. Yep. I had just graduated college and he was just starting that we were exactly, exactly a high school career apart, basically.

Scott Benner 24:34
So when when he was diagnosed, like, I mean, is that a thing like your parents call you and you're like, Hey, your brother has diabetes, or how did you intersect with that?

Bill 24:45
I kind of was it was just hey, they, you know, again, my parents were hard, hard workers, right? They didn't they they were factory guys or worked in a hospital as a secretary. So they weren't really on top of it as well because they hadn't had any experience with it. And that was kind of do my own thing. I was living at home, but just graduated from college trying to figure out what was going on. And it was it was kind of like, Hey, your brother has diabetes, visited him in the hospital, he got out and they kind of helped him do it. And I just didn't really have much, much contact with it. I guess it was just kind of, because he was a little bit older. So it wasn't like he needed help. As far as taking care of himself. You know, he was he was old enough to learn it on his own.

Scott Benner 25:25
No, no, I understand completely. I was just Yeah. interested about like, it was a specific time in your life. Like if that would have happened to him? I don't know, six or seven years prior, you would have had a lot of experience with type one. It Oh, absolutely. Yeah. But yes, because of the way it landed. You just didn't really. Yeah, exactly. Right.

Bill 25:43
Exactly. I was exactly. So So you would have thought it was. So when my daughter was diagnosed, it wasn't like I was, I had this bank of information I could fall back on it was it was just as just as fresh as new. If I had never met anybody with it.

Scott Benner 25:58
Now when she is diagnosed, do you call your brother and go? Hey, you know, so he's got that type one as well. I need? Like, I don't know what your relationships like. But I'm just wondering, did you have that avenue?

Bill 26:09
Yeah, yeah. And I think he was living in Florida at the time. So you know, we call it unexplained. And, you know, there was, there was things that we definitely kind of leaned on him for, as far as checking on things, any, any technology we should look out for. But again, it's hard with that distance in between, in and again, not not being a child. So he couldn't directly relate. What it was like for him to be a five year old diagnosed with it or to be a parent with you know,

Scott Benner 26:37
so then what was what was that like for him? Or did they I mean, it's, it's a it's a while ago now, like it was right at the beginning of CGM. So I don't imagine you had one of those. What did they Weaver

Bill 26:50
when she so we were fortunate. We we had we had CGM. And quite quickly, I mean, it was four months. Really? That's great. So yeah, we had the Dexcom rep in our area did a great job. And we and again, the Lehigh Valley network. They did you know, with the social worker, they were on top of everything, they've answered every question. I wish I could remember names to kind of give them give them a shout out. But they they did a great job really, again, so did my wife and she, we she really researched and, you know, we were really advocates for her as getting it, you know, getting everything we could for her as quickly as possible and make it as easy as it would be.

Scott Benner 27:28
That's really cool. So she had to CGM pretty quickly. MDI, yes, for how long?

Bill 27:34
And di meaning I'm

Scott Benner 27:35
sorry, multiple daily injects. She was injecting in? Oh, yeah. At first, how long does she and does she still do that? Maybe?

Bill 27:42
Oh, wait, I think we should have coffee tomorrow. So it was it was a matter of months as well with the pump. So we probably had, we probably have full, we had her full bionic suit, if you will. We had the pump and the CGM and the pump with in three to four months of each other it was it was quite quickly.

Scott Benner 27:58
What What year was that? Again?

Bill 28:00
This was so your it was? It'll be seven years. So 2015 to the end of 2015.

Scott Benner 28:06
That's great. That's really great. Yeah,

Bill 28:08
yeah, it was. I mean, we were very fortunate for that. I mean, those first three months of the sleepless nights, you know, constantly checking her doing the night shift. You know, I'll check her this hour, you check her the next hour. You know, I think our sleep patterns have for mine in particular, I've never really changed. You know, we still you still don't get more than two hours at a clip, you know, because you're still getting up checking your Dexcom and things like that making sure everything's okay throughout the night.

Scott Benner 28:37
Is that a worry for you? Or is that a real? Like need? Oh, she getting a lower high?

Bill 28:42
No, no, it's especially now she's been good. She plays three sports, you know, sometimes two sports in a single season. So there are nights where it's, it's, it's an extra, it's an it's a need. We're sure you know, she's swimming throughout the day, and then has basketball tournament or softball tournament, hard nights, there could be some long nights where it's, you know, four or five, six juice boxes in the night. But it's more I think it's more of a it's more of a more of a conscious thing for me more of a habit. Because when she was I would travel a little bit too when she was first diagnosed some overnights here and there. And, you know, that was I would always just start keeping making sure I was checking it because Andrea was home with them. But I would also make sure even though I was distant, I was still checking it calling texting, making sure everything was you know, it was more habit. So she's she's, she's been pretty good for a while as far as lows throughout the night.

Scott Benner 29:31
Wow. That's great. Yeah, I mean, all that activity during the day. It's tough. You know, it's yeah, I've definitely, I'm picturing ourselves in a in a hotel room after a softball tournament where we're art and just, you know, we didn't have that much stuff with this at the end of the day, and we're down to like a banana and two more juice boxes. And I'm like, I hope this gets us through this night. You know? Yeah,

Bill 29:56
I know. That's what we've we've had a couple of nights like that where we've gotten through it and we're just Hey, wait, it's on the shopping list. You can you can see it's, you know, pick up juice boxes and fruit snacks tomorrow or, or whatever. And then that night prior, you're down to one juice box and you're looking through the back of the refrigerator. Is there an orange juice? Is there anything left over? We can better? Yeah.

Scott Benner 30:15
So what is? Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm trying to think about how short how the kind of Daddy daughter thing works with the diabetes? Does it because you have another daughter? Like, do you notice? Do you notice your focus being different? You treat them differently? Even? I don't mean poorly. But like, sure, yeah. Is there? Can you talk about that a

Ann 30:39
little bit? Um,

Bill 30:42
I do in a sense where I could see it. I don't know if it would, you would say I'm harder on Silvia, just because of the diabetes, or she's, she's just a, She's a great kid and a great athlete. And she, you know, she, she wants to do everything. Well, she, you know, I'm gonna take a step back for a second. I remember when she was in Girl Scouts. After a year, she had she did a presentation on diabetes, the pancreas, how it doesn't work. And they all got a patch for the for diabetes, because of her, she stood up. And because of her presentation, she stood up in front of her elementary school after a year being diagnosed, and gave a presentation on stage to the teachers and the students about diabetes and what she had. So So I think from early start, she was she was that way, and I never wanted her to feel she couldn't do anything. So I think I may be pushed her, I still do push her a little bit more, I'm probably a little bit tougher on her to not give up on anything, even if it's not diabetes related. So I, but I, but I don't think it's it's just but that could just be because she's my oldest as well. So you know,

Scott Benner 31:48
there's no way to know, I, like I had a moment with Arden last night, she's away at college, and she's doing a really great job. But there's moments where she's, if she's gonna drop a ball, it seems like during the day, she's decided it's going to be your blood sugar. And, you know, I've been helping her like, you know, like, hey here, but there are times we're gonna like Arden, do something right now. Well, you can avoid this problem. And she's, she hasn't always done it. And she's gotten into a higher blood sugar for a couple of hours. And I sent her a note, let you know, I'm usually like, Hey, do this. And I'm trying to be supportive, and I'm trying not to ruin her, her her college experience. And at the same time, I'm not going to let her get into a situation where she's just like, Oh, my blood sugar's 200. It's okay. And so I sent her a text last night and I said heart, I said, hey, hey, and she was I know, I'm taking care of it. And I responded back and I said, I'm calling in five minutes answer the phone. I might gave her five minutes, because I don't know what she's doing. I want to give her a moment. And she responds back, like a minute later. And she goes, I don't need you to call me. And I said four minutes answer the phone. So I got on the phone, and she was irritated, like she's working on our homework, and I get it. And I said, this is gonna be a quick conversation. I'm not mad at you. I was like, You're doing a great job. We're just have to do these things sooner. You know, we're causing our own problems. You know, you and I are gonna the food is difficult at school. Sure, we're gonna do meals together for a few days. That's it. We just are. I don't need you to do that. I said you do. It's it's the food's hard to cover. You don't know what you're doing. There's some simple things we could do here to fix this. Yeah, that's what we're gonna do tomorrow. And that's, you know, there's no reason to yell at her or anything like that. But I was really direct. And I've said, Look, this is what we're doing. I didn't do what my dad would have done, which probably would have been like, Look, do what I tell you where you're gonna find out what a student loan is. You know what I mean? Sure, yeah, exactly. But I just but I, but I was, you know, I was I was more firm with her than I think we normally are. And she responded, she responded fine to it. And then we talked for a minute, I said, By the way, I think I have COVID I'm gonna go now. And I'm gonna go pass out. But, but yeah, there's, yeah, it's tough, right? Because you don't want you don't want to overwhelm them and burden them with it. And you don't want them to not take it seriously. Right? Is that how you feel?

Bill 34:18
Exactly right. And and I think that's, that's one of my that's one of Andrea, my wife's points with her is, look, this is not, you do need to take it serious you do, do if I'm texting you to treat or if I'm texting you to adjust or do something, respond back to me, take it serious, whatever you're doing at that moment is not as important as what we're talking about right now. So get it, you know, get it done, get it situated, and then we'll figure it out. So I absolutely do you and you don't. You don't want to like use it. You don't want to burden them where it's, you know, she's in the middle of doing something with her friends and she's having fun. But you see, she's dropping or you see she's starting to skyrocket. You don't want to pull her out of that fun situation. But you also have to she also has to learn that This is the way it's gonna be, you know, so figure out that happy medium. But, you know, we do get a little stern with her at times and have to dial her back in to refocus on it.

Scott Benner 35:09
I think I give a lot of weight, also to the conversations I've had on the podcast with young people whose parents pushed too hard. And then the kids just went, like flipped around with the totally opposite way. And like, I'm just not taking care of this at all. You know, like, I'm not i I'm trying to be cognizant of that. of that line. I don't know how

Bill 35:31
that's up. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I think we think that to it with everything. We don't ever want her to get to the point where, you know, I think it's seven years. She's maybe said it a handful time that I hate diabetes, right? hate this. She's never gotten she hasn't gotten to that point, often. And I think we, it's because of, you know, how, how good of a job my wife is with her and teaching her and, and part of its Sylvia is, you know, her just her mentality. She's just again, we're just blessed to have such a good kid. We always we joked around about, you know, what if our, one of our other kids got it while our middle daughter she's a she's a pitbull, man. She's, she's, she's tiny, she'll tell you to go to hell in a heartbeat. So we always we always joke like, man, if we were going to have a kid that this happened to Sylvia was just calmer and just more dialed in on focusing on things. So you know, she's made it a little bit easier on us.

Scott Benner 36:24
Yeah. Hey, so this recording is interesting. Like, your, your wife made this appointment, right?

Bill 36:31
She did. Yeah, she was she did. And then she she kind of said, Hey, would you mind talking, talking to, to, to Scott, because? And then so? I said, Yeah, I mean, absolutely. You know, whatever, you know, again, being a sales guy. So it's easier for me to talk than it is for a stay at home mom.

Scott Benner 36:48
No, no, no, listen, this is super interesting. So she she wanted to be on the podcast, but she she chickened out about talking on it. Is that what happened? She

Bill 36:56
Yeah, she basically kind of chickened out on it. But yeah, she's there right now. She's, she's, I'm watching her now. She's listening to me making sure I you know, I get things right as she, as she to be honest with you as she cleans the refrigerator.

Scott Benner 37:11
Do you think like in the last 10 minutes of this, do you think she would jump on with me and talk to me? Is she getting more comfortable? Or does she really not want to do it?

Bill 37:20
Would you be able to talk for a couple minutes? Yeah. Sure. She

Scott Benner 37:23
said, Sure. That's cool. All right. Well,

Bill 37:26
she she I think she I think she's warming up. You see, once once. Once she's done, what she's done cleaning the spilled pickle juice out of the refrigerator.

Scott Benner 37:36
Once she's done that, put it put her on, but I'm interested to see what happened here. But so day to day, you're pretty involved with all this? And are things going the way that you hoped? Like, are you having outcomes with a one season variability that you're looking for? If not, like where's the struggle?

Bill 37:58
I think we are I mean, we're we're still we're still struggling to find her because one, you know, find that sweet spot I guess, you know, using sports terms. It's once we once we feel like we we've got her in a good level. She's She's staying she's staying where there's, there's no Pete There's not many peaks and valleys, and something changes as she gets sick, right? And then we're making, we're making changes to her insulin delivery, or we're changing something out and then it's or she hits a growth spurt, or she turns 13 And those those womanly things come up, and you know, it seems like you know, yeah, as a parent, we're, we want we want our lives or our children, so we don't ever feel like we're doing good enough for her. But, you know, we go to the doctor, we get the pep talk she's doing she's doing very well, she's, you know, she's there, we see so many horror stories that you know, be confident be you know, that you guys are doing the best you can for so, you know, we just never feel like we're doing enough. Of course,

Scott Benner 38:54
not hormone stuff is real. Yeah, absolutely. Yes.

Bill 38:59
She we started last year, and it's sort of earlier this year. And it's been, it's been wild. Say,

Scott Benner 39:05
ya know, yesterday morning, I Arden's blood sugar look difficult. And then we got a little more aggressive with it. And then the rest of the day, it was on the lower side. And you're just like, how did that? How did that switch flip so quickly, you know? And, and then then you come into that last meal of the day, and you're you're a little frozen, you're like, well, in the morning, we needed to be more aggressive. And throughout the day and the Eve in the early evening. We need to be less aggressive. Now. Here comes food. Which one are we going to pick up? Like, are we going to be aggressive here and is she going to get low? Or are we going to err on the side of caution here and she's going to get high? And yeah. If she was here, I know I would have been like be more aggressive. But because she wasn't. She was using her experience from the day like a day where at the end of her day like she had a low Blood Sugar approach her that she ate a lot of carbs to cover and it didn't really, it didn't make her high afterwards. So you're like, wow, so, you know, I was she was trending low all day, but holding on, at all added all these carbs didn't make her high, goes to eat food an hour later and probably thinks, Well, I'm low right now. And then of course, complete opposite.

Bill 40:21
It shoots up. Yeah, we've we've had plenty of days like that, especially especially with sports where you're, you're, you're how do we give this meal your home at home, it's 830. At night, she's going to be going to bed in an hour. You know, we don't want to, we don't want to have to wake her up three times and give her give her juice. So we don't want to be overly aggressive. And then we make a decision to Alright, let's let's give 10 on treat it. And now all of a sudden, she's skyrocketing. And you just think then it made the wrong made the wrong choice. They're

Scott Benner 40:48
wrong. I did the wrong thing. I thought that I did the wrong thing. Because she's like, What do you think? And I was like, Well, what are you thinking? Well, I've been low all afternoon. And I'm like, Alright, so I'm not like, I'm like dangerously low just on the low end, where you're just like, Sure, popping a gummy bear once in a while watching your blood sugar be 75 or 80. And then it drifts again. And you know, like, it's just, it's I don't know, it sucks. Yep. But

Bill 41:12
that's, and that's how that's how Ann and I are a lot. I mean, it's we do kind of handle. She'll be at a birthday party. And she'll you know, we always either food up first, what's the cake look like? What's the, what's the pizza situation? What is how is a thick crust? What is it? So she's doing all that texting me while Sylvia is playing? Hey, this is the crust of the big regular Neapolitan pizza with chocolate cake. What do you think as far as you know, so we're texting back and forth, I got the other kids, maybe, you know, we're home playing basketball or something like that. But he and I are texting back and forth, you know, game planning for when these kids get done, and they're ready to sit down and eat their lunch. So it's always like that. Even at nighttime. Hey, what do you think that was just knocked off? And just give her 10? On treat it? Or do we? And you know, so we're certainly involved together a lot, you know, to where there's times where she'll text me and ask me and I just I, you know, I either can't get back to her. And then I finally do and my answer is the opposite of what she did. And it's kind of like, well, well, I guess we wait and see now

Scott Benner 42:07
that's always fun. What do you think? 10? I think 20 Great.

Bill 42:11
Exactly. Right.

Scott Benner 42:14
But during the day at school, so there's so be pretty, like, self sufficient? Do you help her with meals? Does she go to a nurse? How does that all work?

Bill 42:23
So we she packed lunch every day, so or worse while she started? Okay, she's starting to so we used to pack lunch every day. But now she's starting to buy. So she's pretty self sufficient, where we can see the meals up front. And she's gonna know but she actually doesn't visit the nurse at all she does, she does everything on her own. So she's, she's playing what she wants to eat. And we've noticed what a day she she will get some spikes because she won't make her remind them prior to lunch show sometimes get there and switch it up. So that's, that's that part of being, you know, a, a teenage kid that we don't want her life to be completely planned out. So we'll let her kind of make a decision. But there are certain things where, you know, she she self sufficient. But if we notice it getting out of control, we have to tell her, Hey, look, you got to, you got to learn to we got to figure out how you're going to Pre-Bolus Here, give yourself at least a little bit a little bit before we get into lunch, if you're not sure exactly what you want to eat, and start, you know, start start treating sooner. And then we can figure the rest out later.

Scott Benner 43:17
That's a good balance that it gives it gives weight to both ideas that everything can't be so structured that you're just like, I gotta get away from this. And yet the it's structured in the places that keep her safe and things to that nature. So

Bill 43:34
and that's where we I mean, as she gets older and she's in high school, if if we see she's able to deal with the structure better who I'd love this structure, if you don't have more structure for Hey, this is this is your this is your meal plan for the week. This is what's for lunch, this is what we're going to do. But at this point, I'm not so sure just being that way she just wants to be with her friends being a almost 13 year old girl. We don't want to give that full structure there. Because when she comes home, she's gonna get it. So you know, we kind of give her a little bit of leeway there.

Scott Benner 44:04
Good luck with that bill. Because last last night on the phone, I could feel Arden's irritation with talking to me, like I could feel it in the silence. And I said, hey, hey, and she goes, Well, she didn't even say anything. She just I don't even remember what she did. I just knew it was there. And I was like, Hey, listen, I'm really sick. We're just gonna do this and get it done and move on. And nobody needs to be upset, because I don't have it in me to be upset right now. I was like, let's just have this conversation and get past it. So she's like, Oh, she goes, okay. All right. There we go. It's not the time to pick a fight with me because I don't have enough. I'm barely holding my head up. So

Bill 44:43
she probably she probably could have gotten a win, but she's good.

Scott Benner 44:46
She could have knocked me over easily. I also have, you know, there's also a, you know, I've when I was younger, I would have gotten in the car and drove in the 15 hours to or knocked on her door and been like we weren't on talking yet. You know, so I don't think I Have that in me anymore. But

Bill 45:01
no, I'm curious to see. I feel like I could be that way as well. So, you know, we obviously have five, six years before that. That comes about, but we'll see here, you know, we'll see. I don't want to think about it right now.

Scott Benner 45:15
It's great. All right. What can I try every now? Absolutely.

Bill 45:20
Okay. to hand her the headphones. Thank you. Thanks a lot, Scott. Appreciate it.

Scott Benner 45:26
Oh, Bill, you were terrific. Thank you.

Ann 45:30
Okay. Hello.

Scott Benner 45:35
Is it an or Andrea?

Ann 45:37
Either one is fine.

Scott Benner 45:39
Because he flipped back and forth so easily between con you and Andrea wasn't sure. Yeah.

Ann 45:43
I think he uses both everyone does.

Scott Benner 45:45
I first I thought you guys might be Mormon. And there were two girls there. But I realized that it was just it's you one of the others.

Ann 45:51
Oh, yeah. No. No. Okay. I'm not Mormon.

Scott Benner 45:57
So I don't know how much you heard in the beginning. I'm viciously sick. I have recently tested positive for COVID. I've been sick for a week. Doesn't matter. I'm doing good. But I need to know before I die, because this could kill me. Okay. You're well, you're like sign up is one of the most like, interesting and confusing. Alright. Can you hear me? Hello? Yeah, yeah, it's

Ann 46:24
just crackling a little bit.

Scott Benner 46:26
Oh, I'm sorry. i It sounds clean on the sensor. I didn't know that was happening. Okay. You signing up to be on the podcast is one of the most interesting confusing things that I've I've got, I've had like making people sign up. There's some questions like, Hey, this is what you know, What's your connection to diabetes? What do you want to talk about? Like that kind of stuff? So did you sign up to be on the podcast?

Ann 46:49
I signed bill up to be on. But physically you did the typing is what I'm saying. I did the typing. Yeah. And I felt and I asked him, Hey, would you want to go on?

Scott Benner 46:58
Okay, because I was. So on my end. It just says, you know, Andrea? And then it asks questions about like, why you want to be on everything. There's no, like, the I understand, I'll be purchasing a little discount. There's no answer about what you want to tell. And I must have

Ann 47:15
missed that part. And he asked me, What am I supposed to talk about? And I said, I don't know. I guess you just talk?

Scott Benner 47:20
Well, that's what usually happens. But so I just look and I'm like, okay, whatever, this is what it's gonna be, I'll be fine. I didn't know I was gonna have COVID While we did it, no big deal. Like, if I take too deep of a breath right now, I think I'm gonna fall over. But so I just, ah, found a nice pace. Anyway, so a few I don't know how long ago, I get an email from Bill. And Bill's, like, Hey, I'm coming on the podcast. And I'm like, Are you like, I like some, I'm searching his name. And I'm like, I don't like I don't have this person on here. You know, like, I don't know what's going on. And then I then he starts telling me, No, my wife signed up for blah, blah. And I'm like, Oh, okay. So I just could not figure out what was happening.

Ann 48:01
Oh, yeah, I signed up under my name. And I figured I'd just hand it over to him.

Scott Benner 48:06
And what what was your? What was the onus? Like, why did you want for you or he to be on the podcast? Like, what was? What's the idea that you wanted to get across?

Ann 48:17
I just thought that I don't know the way my daughter handles diabetes, I think it could maybe give a better impression to newly diagnosed parents. Okay. Parents of newly diagnosed children just that I see a lot of posts and blogs and things just being so down and so sad, which it is. But I just want to show like, it doesn't have to be forever, you know, you can be positive, you can move on. You can do anything that you wanted to do normally. Things like that. I gotcha. Yeah. Just more positive experience. Really?

Scott Benner 48:57
So did you have like, did you have a bad experience that you were able to move in a positive direction? Or do you think it's just your daughter's personality in general?

Ann 49:09
Her personality, her personality, I think she took it better than I did. At first. I was really super sad and just seeing her be hurt. She thought she was being hurt by the needles. She thought everybody was hurting her. And that just made me sad for longer than it made her sad. She she moved on quickly. She went right back to playing soccer, which she didn't stick out but

Scott Benner 49:34
it makes sense. She just gone sport and I mean, honestly, they run back and forth and nobody scores you can't it's terrible.

Ann 49:40
Oh yeah, my kids all tried soccer and quit.

Scott Benner 49:45
But But So you think that well, not you think but you were I mean, were you sad like depressed or sad? Just like sollen like for a while. How long did that last for you?

Ann 49:59
Oh a while. Till a couple months, I would say.

Scott Benner 50:02
And she Yeah, she wasn't in the same space like she had left that. No, we're still on it.

Ann 50:07
No, they were getting in trouble in the hospital, her and her little cousins putting the bed all the way up. The nurses kept having to come in and tell them to calm down. And she was she was okay. Yeah.

Scott Benner 50:18
So the I mean, the sadness is the life change. You didn't know anything about it, I imagine, right? Like you never once looked at Bill's brother and thought, oh, he has type one diabetes. I have to worry about this for my kids. Like you didn't have any Yeah,

Ann 50:31
no, no, never thought about it. Okay.

Scott Benner 50:35
So how did you get out of that feeling? Do you know?

Ann 50:38
Oh, no, I don't know. I guess it just kind of stopped. Yeah, yeah. I guess just time. I guess. I'm being busy. Busy with other kids. And

Scott Benner 50:50
so you're the plan here is make so many kids that you don't have enough time to focus on life's problems, I believe. Yeah, just

Ann 50:58
get overwhelmed. Fill it all up.

Scott Benner 51:01
It's like the 1940s They're like, I don't know. We had nine kids. One of them got lost. We didn't even look for it. You know, like,

Ann 51:07
Yeah, that's probably Yeah, our kids were all back to back. They all play sports, three sports a year. And then we just swim all summer. So yeah, we just moved on with life, I guess.

Scott Benner 51:18
Yeah, stay busy and keep moving. And so when you when you say you see other people kind of in the sadness, like you know, where they've been, you've been there. And are you afraid that they're not leaving?

Ann 51:31
Kind of sometimes I feel like well, maybe if you just tried, like the way they yell at you get mad at school and just stay so angry, which we had our share of things with school to really bad experiences. But I don't know, just the way the negativity just stays there. And they just stay mad. Like, everything is so hard and it is harder. But you can work around things a lot easier if you're more positive. Well, I will

Scott Benner 51:59
say one thing that I think might make you feel a little better, because my experience with online communities is that there's, there's different waves, right? Like there's newly diagnosed people who are scared and don't know what they're doing need help. Then there are people who move on to the I don't know the phase of being upset about everything about diabetes, right? Like I heard a comedian make a joke about sugar. He doesn't understand I'm gonna get him fired. Like, you know, like that whole thing. Yeah. And then there's the you know, we're being treated poorly by the school the these people this I tried to go to God, what was the one I saw the other day, like, somebody tried to go to a water park. And the people that they the waterpark wouldn't let us bring in our food. And you know, like, I'm like, ya know what, no one knows about diabetes. Like, yeah, you know about it, like they know exactly. Right. And you have these big you see these big reactions from some people, by the way? I don't think everybody you know, that walks into that water park for the first time with diabetes and is told you can't bring in outside food. I don't think everyone starts a letter writing campaign. I think some people just go, Hey, stick that food on the backburner. sneak it in. Let's get going. You know what I mean? Like,

Ann 53:18
now, and maybe we're lucky, but we've never had a problem. We went everywhere. Like, yeah, Phil, you know, Philly stadium, we were just at the Eagles stadium for a different game. But all he did was say, Hey, you should have taken the medical line. And I was like, sorry, I didn't know. You. Just like, okay,

Scott Benner 53:32
and that was it. Yeah, well, I so my point was gonna be that sometimes online, you're seeing people in these bands of experiences. And it can feel like everybody feels that way. But I think I think it's just the most the the people who are the most lost and scared and in need of help are usually more vocal. I think. I mean, I'm not sure like maybe the world's full of people who are just like, everything sucks. And this is horrible. But I don't think so. I think that there's a time during your diagnosis when you feel that way. And yes, it's helpful. I like them. I almost prefer that they voice it because then when you see it, you can think well, oh, they didn't need to do that. Or they could have done this this way. And it kind of spurs conversation. I think you'd get it through. I think the problem is that the following month when the next person feels that way, it can start feeling like that's the only thing people are talking about. So I tried to stay positive on there and you know, let people tell their stories of successes and things like that. So for Sylvia like what are some of the things that are going right for her now?

Ann 54:45
Um, she loves not having to see a school nurse. We stopped seeing the school nurse last year just because mainly her school is so big, and it was too inconvenient to walk there. Yeah. So that is That was a that was really good for her. She loves that she loves not being singled out. Just being able to treat herself when she needs to watch the Apple Watch solved that so she can always hear the phone. It's, you know, quieter. What's up with all my messages.

Scott Benner 55:15
So you're on the Apple Watch. I'm

Ann 55:16
just playing field hockey, she stays after school every day for two and a half hours. The Running is tough. That's really hard to figure out. Because she runs pretty much for two and a half hours after school. So that was really difficult. I don't think we figured it out even to the end.

Scott Benner 55:32
She is she so first of all, she uses a pump. Omnipod five. Alright, shall we? Okay, so how long have you been doing that?

Ann 55:42
Since July?

Scott Benner 55:45
Oh, pretty. Pretty. Pretty close to the beginning. Yeah. Okay, you're about three months into it. So is she? Is she utilizing the exercise mode? Or is she Yes. Is that helping?

Ann 55:59
I think it helped more with swimming over the summer. But with the running, I don't know if it did very much. So she's, she still went in with like 40 uncovered carbs and then treated mostly halfway through it most of the times.

Scott Benner 56:16
Okay, so when she's gonna do all this running, it's for field hockey, right? So she's, she's taking in a pretty big snack prior to field hockey and then running and then halfway through this two hours of running, she actually needs more food. Yes. Okay. Is she getting low after practice? Or she making dinner? Okay?

Ann 56:36
She'll make it to dinner then. Okay. And I try to try to get her up to like 200. So she doesn't have to stop while she's running. And she can keep because they raise they do a mile all kinds of exercises.

Scott Benner 56:50
Right. And there's not a ton of pausing in between, they're going from one thing to the next overnight.

Ann 56:54
No, not really interesting. Yeah. What is she? Yeah, the running is difficult.

Scott Benner 57:00
What does she eat before? What does she use? I usually give

Ann 57:03
her a juice box and a protein bar. So it'll be like 30 carbs. Or sometimes she'll have peanut butter sandwich. Nutella sticks. I tried to get it to 30 carbs. So you

Scott Benner 57:15
do some, like a little bit of fast acting with the juice. And then you do a little more like slower acting carbs with the the bar or the peanut butter.

Ann 57:25
That's what I try for unless she'll change it. She'll say, oh, somebody gave me a snacks and then she'll be in something else. And but yeah, she I try to make sure she has 30 carbs.

Scott Benner 57:34
Okay, what sir? Would you share with me? Like, what's her agency right now?

Ann 57:39
Seven. Oh, that's

Scott Benner 57:40
great. Well, yeah,

Ann 57:42
she is she stays steady at like 7.2. Sometimes up to 7.4.

Scott Benner 57:47
And this and this is mostly a function of what you're shooting for because of how much activity she has.

Ann 57:53
Yeah, it makes it harder to stay at the lower numbers.

Scott Benner 57:58
What does she think? Well, what that's what if, listen, if that's your experience, and that's what's happening. So what about beyond the field hockey? Like, is she playing another fall sport? Oh, yeah. Softball. Okay. Wow. So that's mostly what practice at night and then weekends, tournaments.

Ann 58:17
Yeah, yeah, right now, she hasn't done a tournament for this one yet. She was just on a football team that just ended. And now it's a fall travel team. And so to her first one next week, but they'll play two games. How old? Is she? 13. She'll be 13 Soon.

Scott Benner 58:34
Does she? How much does she like love the sports part of it? Like, is it? I always wonder about sports? Like, is she doing it? Because that's what she thinks she does. Where is she doing it? Because she really loves it?

Ann 58:46
Because I know she loves it. She loves it. She wants to beat everyone. She just loves it. It's her. It's who she is. Yeah, she could we don't we ask her. So you don't have to do it. Do you want to do it? Somebody asked her to be on the football team. And I said, Hey, it's up to her. So I'll go home and talk to her about it. And then she was like, yeah, absolutely. I mean gym class. She's tough. She's like, probably the worst person in gym class. She does yells at all her friends and I asked her good answer the other day. Can you tap test please? She's like, nope, kickball.

Scott Benner 59:27
ARLEN came home one day and she said the gym teacher pulled me aside. And I was like, what she goes he said, You can't throw the ball that hard at people. And she's like, What are you talking about? So they were playing one of those like, just half the classes on one side of the gym and half on the other side. And he's like, give you these balls. You throw them back and forth. It's dodgeball basically. Right. And, and she's she's like, What are you talking about? She's like, people are complaining. And she's like, that's so funny. Because those are i She's like that. They're boys. Oh, Were there I hit like I, like, you know? And she's like, No, it's everybody like you can't you throw the ball so much harder than everybody else. You can't do that. And that is so fun. She took so much pride in that story. Like,

Ann 1:00:12
I bet she would love that. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:00:14
compliment exactly where everyone else is just like, oh my god, I'm hurting. People aren't just like, apparently I'm not allowed to throw it my full strength. What else is a baby? That is so funny. But But when Oregon stopped playing softball, she never looked back at like, once she got hurt, and so she couldn't play. And then she just like, you know, as we were trying to get her back again. She's like, I'm done. She's like, forget it. And I was like, Yeah, okay. And that was kind of it. I've never once. I've never once thought that she is sad that she's not playing softball anymore, which really surprised me. But it was, it was interesting to learn. Yeah, no. So we'll see. I mean, she just don't know. Last night. Last night, two nights ago at college. She got to meet Miles Teller from that top gun movie. You know, I'm talking about?

Ann 1:01:08
I don't I didn't see the new one. I don't really remember the old one. I know. I've seen it. It's okay.

Scott Benner 1:01:13
It's a it's a handsome young man to have the shirt off in the movie. And he's an act. Okay. Um, he came to a film festival with her college. And oh, wow. And, you know, she was she was dressed like she was like she was in the movie. And having such a good time. And I thought and I actually remember looking at the picture thinking like, I can't believe that's the kid that used to like, dive around the dirt. And for all I know, she'll

Ann 1:01:36
teams one day. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:01:38
yeah, it's it's so super interesting. Okay, so we're up on an hour. And I know you didn't want to do this. I don't want to push you too far. I just wanted to get your voice on here, because I was worried at first that you were that he had you chained to that refrigerator that, you

Ann 1:01:54
know, someone spilled something and left it, you know, like they do.

Scott Benner 1:01:58
Yeah, no, no, no, it's my it's my whole life. And it's my whole life. Guy. Did it ever walk past the sink and say, Does it ever occur to any of you to, like, wash one of these off or move? Oh, yeah, forget it. Nobody cares. Like if I wasn't here, I know. Like, we're all sick right now. There's three people in the house. Three people are sick. If and I really I realized this morning, if I was dead. My wife would abandon the dog sent me the like, just leave. She would just be like, I'm not taking care of those things.

Ann 1:02:32
Does everyone have COVID

Scott Benner 1:02:35
Kelly came, Kelly had to go to Paris for work. She came back had COVID and we isolated her. And then she was okay and tested negative. We even kept her in there extra time. Let her out. She had a rebound after she was back in the house. Oh, then Cole and I got sick on the same day. But we did not test positive for COVID. And now it's like one two. I'm like six days into being sick. And last night Kelly came up to me she's like, just take another one of these COVID tests. I told Bill like the barely put the thing in the thing. And the line just was like, bang you have COVID Okay, so apparently that's what I have.

Ann 1:03:16
That's what happened to my family to the positive came right up. Yeah, immediately. That's what he was saying.

Scott Benner 1:03:21
So anyway, yeah. So I basically think I used up all my days energy to have this conversation with you on bill, but I'm glad I did it. I'm not certain what's gonna happen when I say goodbye in a second. But I think a nap is coming. Oh,

Ann 1:03:35
well, you know what, really quick. What's funny about you saying, you know, no one would do anything if you were sick. They all got COVID Except for me. And I was able to take care of everyone keep everything clean, clean up after them serve them. Oh, no, I didn't get it. That's definitely.

Scott Benner 1:03:49
Maybe you got oh, maybe you got a little good karma out of that. Like, although I was helping, and then all of a sudden I'm sick. So apparently karma doesn't care about me. But oh, but no, I listen, they're all terrific. But just you know, some people are more focused on things like I am sick. We're all sick. But I got up this morning and took the dogs out. Like, those dogs want to go out. They have to go outside they want to eat. Everyone else is just like, look, I'm sick. The dogs will live. And I'm like, Oh, okay. All right. This is why I didn't want dogs. I hope you all feel better injured. I really appreciate you doing this. Please thank Bill for me as well. Okay, and if you hold on one second, I just need to tell you like two things before you go.

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