#1721 Runny Eggs

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A funny, honest conversation with 13-year-old Trey and his mom Stephanie about type 1 diabetes, sports, growing up, parenting, pre-bolusing, and why runny eggs somehow matter.

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Scott Benner (0:00) Hello, friends. (0:01) Welcome to the Juice Box podcast. (0:03) Happy holidays to everyone juggling carbs, cookies, and the chaos of this season.

Stephanie (0:18) Hi. (0:18) My name's Trey. (0:20) Or let me do that again.

Scott Benner (0:21) No. (0:22) No. (0:22) No. (0:22) That's all oh, that's all staying in. (0:25) Rob, this is the beginning of the episode right here.

Scott Benner (0:27) Don't let it out.

Stephanie (0:28) That's amazing. (0:28) My name is Stephanie. (0:29) I am the mom of, three kids.

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Scott Benner (2:04) Today's episode is also sponsored by the Dexcom g seven, the same CGM that my daughter wears. (2:10) Check it out now at dexcom.com/juicebox. (2:15) Just so I can test the audio being recorded, I've already checked my voice and it's there. (2:20) Can one of you say test?

Trey (2:22) Test. (2:22) Test.

Scott Benner (2:23) Awesome. (2:24) So when you're ready, Stephanie, go ahead and introduce yourself any way you want to be known. (2:32) Last name's not important as far as I'm concerned, but I don't care if you use yours. (2:36) And then, Trey, when your mom's done, you jump in and introduce yourself. (2:40) Okay?

Trey (2:41) Okay.

Scott Benner (2:42) Alright. (2:42) Go ahead, Stephanie.

Stephanie (2:44) Hi. (2:44) My name's Trey. (2:46) Or let me do that again.

Scott Benner (2:47) No. (2:48) No. (2:48) No. (2:48) That's all no. (2:49) That's all staying in.

Scott Benner (2:51) Rob, this is the beginning of the episode right here. (2:53) Don't add it up.

Stephanie (2:54) That's amazing. (2:54) My name is Stephanie. (2:56) I am the mom of, three kids, Ellie, Trey, and Sullivan. (3:03) Trey is my middle one. (3:04) He's 13, and he's my one with type one.

Trey (3:07) Hello. (3:08) I'm Trey. (3:10) Yeah. (3:10) I'm the I'm the middle child. (3:12) It's fun.

Trey (3:13) I'm 13. (3:14) I've been I was diagnosed in, like, 2023, I think. (3:19) Right? (3:19) Yep.

Scott Benner (3:19) Okay.

Stephanie (3:20) You're correct.

Scott Benner (3:20) So a little over two years?

Trey (3:22) Yeah. (3:23) A little over two years.

Scott Benner (3:24) And is your one of your siblings named after the Monsters Incorporated character or no?

Trey (3:29) No. (3:29) Sadly. (3:30) My dad wanted to name her after Sully Urna.

Scott Benner (3:32) I don't know who that is.

Stephanie (3:34) The lead singer of Godsmack.

Scott Benner (3:36) Of Godsmack?

Trey (3:38) Yes. (3:38) It's a band.

Scott Benner (3:39) I know it's a band, Troy. (3:40) I just that just surprised me. (3:42) How old are your parents, Troy?

Trey (3:43) My dad is almost 50. (3:44) He's 49.

Scott Benner (3:47) It's crazy.

Trey (3:48) He's old.

Stephanie (3:49) It's his favorite band, and he said, I wanna name him Sully. (3:53) And I said, that's great, honey, but we need something for the boardroom. (3:56) And so I settled on Sullivan, and he said, but Sully works for Sully Urna. (4:01) I said, is quite literally a rock star.

Scott Benner (4:04) Do you call him Sully

Stephanie (4:06) in the house? (4:06) Him Sully most of the time.

Scott Benner (4:08) Alright. (4:08) I don't know a lot of godsmack. (4:10) I gotta be honest with you. (4:12) But he does.

Stephanie (4:14) He he does. (4:15) I mean, it works for him.

Scott Benner (4:16) Did you know? (4:17) Were you just like I mean, I know you know he likes the band, but when he said that, were you like, really? (4:22) Or did that make sense to you?

Stephanie (4:25) Oh, no. (4:25) We had he had talked about it many times, and I never really thought that he was serious. (4:29) And the first two kids got family names, so the third one was a little up in the air. (4:35) And he got his choice, and I toned it a little bit.

Scott Benner (4:40) He got his choice. (4:42) I bet you he paid for that in a number of ways. (4:44) Okay.

Stephanie (4:45) Oh, no. (4:45) No. (4:46) I the name is perfect for him. (4:47) Sullivan is, like, the perfect name for him.

Scott Benner (4:50) Very nice. (4:50) Alright. (4:51) Well, Trey, what do you remember about being diagnosed with diabetes?

Trey (4:55) I remember that when I was diagnosed, my blood sugar was, like, 640.

Scott Benner (5:00) Do you remember how that made you feel?

Trey (5:02) Not good. (5:03) I I was in the middle of a lacrosse tournament, and I kinda threw up, like, twice during it. (5:09) And and then I went to the hospital, and we got home, and that's how I got diagnosed. (5:14) Oh. (5:15) I got

Scott Benner (5:16) Trey, I'm sorry. (5:17) I didn't laugh that you vomited. (5:18) I laughed because I heard earlier that your sister plays lacrosse. (5:22) You play lacrosse, then I realized you guys are in Florida, lacrosse is huge in Florida, isn't it?

Stephanie (5:26) Sorry. (5:27) We actually live in Chicagoland.

Scott Benner (5:28) Oh. (5:30) Oh. (5:30) That's a

Stephanie (5:31) state. (5:31) In Florida for a For lacrosse tournament.

Scott Benner (5:34) You traveled from Chicago to Florida for a lacrosse tournament?

Stephanie (5:39) Yes.

Scott Benner (5:40) Wow.

Trey (5:40) Sully went to California all they're in January for, team Illinois lacrosse. (5:47) He also went to Maryland in Rhode Island.

Scott Benner (5:49) Are you guys all good at this, Trey? (5:51) Like, how good are they?

Trey (5:52) You know, I'm a I'm a good goalie.

Scott Benner (5:54) Nice. (5:55) And and people throw that ball at you really hard. (5:57) Right?

Trey (5:57) Yeah.

Scott Benner (5:58) Yeah. (5:58) Does it hurt?

Trey (5:59) My legs always hurt.

Scott Benner (6:00) Yeah. (6:00) It where does it hurt the most to get hit with a ball?

Trey (6:03) The inner thigh and, like, right on the in like, on the I inside of your elbow.

Scott Benner (6:09) Oh, okay. (6:10) And are those places not shielded, does just the ball just find you sometimes?

Trey (6:14) They're not shielded. (6:15) Oh. (6:16) Bullies don't wear elbow pads. (6:17) Their arms are free.

Scott Benner (6:19) Oh, fun. (6:20) So sometimes do you find yourself going, oh, I know I'm moving my arm in front of this ball and it's really gonna hurt? (6:27) Probably. (6:28) Yeah. (6:28) Yeah.

Scott Benner (6:28) Oh, that's interesting.

Trey (6:29) I like to get hit.

Scott Benner (6:30) Okay. (6:31) You like it when balls hit you in the head?

Trey (6:33) Yes. (6:34) My brain Well, they

Stephanie (6:35) have a helmet on for that.

Scott Benner (6:36) Stephanie, I was testing the boys' sarcasm there, and you you jumped all over it. (6:40) So now I don't know why. (6:41) I I don't know where he's at. (6:43) Let me try again.

Stephanie (6:43) My brain doesn't feel it anymore. (6:45) Good

Scott Benner (6:48) job, Troy.

Trey (6:48) My teammates keep sniping me in the face.

Scott Benner (6:52) Alright. (6:52) So care. (6:53) So being diagnosed not fun, didn't feel well. (6:56) Do you remember the lead up to it, Trey? (6:59) Like, how you felt before you guys went to the hospital, and do you remember anything about how your parents handled it?

Trey (7:05) I was really dizzy and lightheaded because I was, like, really high. (7:10) Mhmm. (7:10) And also, I lost a lot I lost, like, 20 or 30 pounds.

Scott Benner (7:15) In how long? (7:16) What was the time frame, Stephanie, he lost that?

Trey (7:18) In, a four month period?

Stephanie (7:19) No. (7:20) It was about a week.

Scott Benner (7:22) Wait. (7:22) He lost 20 pounds in a week?

Stephanie (7:25) Yeah. (7:25) Like, a week or two. (7:27) That was really what finally caught my attention. (7:31) We think, in retrospect, he had been fighting for several months, but the activity from daily practices and working out and just summer activities kept his blood sugar stable enough

Scott Benner (7:48) Okay.

Stephanie (7:48) That

Scott Benner (7:49) Maybe it slowed it slowed the process down of you figuring it out.

Stephanie (7:52) Yes.

Scott Benner (7:53) Okay.

Stephanie (7:53) Because there was so many things leading into it. (7:56) You know, his he was peeing more and drinking more, but his coaches told him to stay hydrated.

Scott Benner (8:02) Yeah.

Stephanie (8:02) So I was able to write that off. (8:05) Mhmm. (8:05) He was sleepy, but he was playing video games until late at night, and he had multiple practices. (8:13) So, again, able to play that off.

Scott Benner (8:16) Yeah. (8:16) A lot of stuff masks everything else. (8:18) It's pretty cool.

Stephanie (8:19) I mean, it's all, like, the the common things. (8:24) It the final straw was that last week. (8:26) His tournament his last tournament was the Sunday before he was diagnosed. (8:32) And that week, I looked at him, and I'm like, gosh. (8:38) He looks thinner.

Stephanie (8:39) He looks maybe he's taller. (8:41) Maybe he's growing.

Scott Benner (8:43) And

Stephanie (8:44) then he had multiple overnight accidents the weekend that he was diagnosed, and I knew something wasn't right.

Scott Benner (8:53) Let me ask Trey a question here. (8:55) So because you're old enough to really ask this question. (8:57) At 11 years old, you don't pee in your bed. (9:01) So when that starts happening, do you remember, like, what did you think was going on, or what were you concerned about when that was happening?

Trey (9:07) I don't know.

Scott Benner (9:08) You don't remember?

Trey (9:09) No. (9:10) No?

Stephanie (9:11) He hid the first couple from us.

Scott Benner (9:13) Yeah. (9:13) I would have too, Trey. (9:14) Well done. (9:15) You know what I mean? (9:16) Would you, like, put it in the laundry on your own or something like that?

Trey (9:19) No. (9:20) He just moved from the basement on the mattress. (9:23) That

Scott Benner (9:24) mattress has been thrown away?

Stephanie (9:26) The mattress has been thrown away. (9:27) So has the one on his bed. (9:29) We replaced both of those that next week.

Scott Benner (9:32) Hey. (9:32) No one ever talks about the high side of being diagnosed with type one diabetes is that you get a new mattress.

Stephanie (9:37) Right?

Scott Benner (9:38) Pretty great. (9:38) Right? (9:39) Is there anybody else in the family who has diabetes? (9:41) Is there any reason for you to think about this?

Trey (9:43) There's, like, a there's, like, a a cousin on my mom's or something.

Stephanie (9:47) One of my first cousins has diabetes. (9:51) She was diagnosed as an adult.

Scott Benner (9:53) She has type one?

Stephanie (9:55) She is type one.

Scott Benner (9:56) Okay.

Stephanie (9:57) And I have an uncle by marriage, but no relation.

Scott Benner (10:01) How about other autoimmune stuff down that side of the family?

Stephanie (10:05) My grandmother was rheumatoid arthritis. (10:09) I have what I think are, but never diagnosed. (10:12) Like, I think they're thyroid stuff, but the numbers are always normal, so they say I'm fine. (10:17) You know?

Scott Benner (10:18) Yeah. (10:19) What what are the numbers? (10:20) Do you remember?

Stephanie (10:20) Not off the top of my head. (10:22) Yeah. (10:24) Yeah. (10:24) They're borderline, but still within the normal range.

Scott Benner (10:27) But you have symptoms?

Stephanie (10:29) I've got the exhaustion. (10:31) I've got I've got food intolerances.

Scott Benner (10:35) Why don't you tell them that you would prefer if your symptoms were managed and not your numbers?

Stephanie (10:40) I'm working on that.

Scott Benner (10:41) Good.

Stephanie (10:42) I've changed providers a couple of times. (10:44) I was actually finishing nursing school when Trey was diagnosed.

Scott Benner (10:49) Oh.

Trey (10:50) So

Scott Benner (10:50) What kind of nurse are you?

Stephanie (10:52) I'm an emergency room nurse.

Scott Benner (10:54) Oh, awesome. (10:56) I just interviewed doctor Beach Jim. (10:59) Do you know who that is? (11:00) Are you on the line?

Stephanie (11:02) I am online, but I don't know who that is. (11:06) I

Scott Benner (11:06) She does, like, a lot of TikTok and Instagram stuff.

Stephanie (11:09) Oh, do you know what? (11:10) I think I just started seeing her come across my stuff.

Scott Benner (11:14) Okay. (11:15) Yeah. (11:15) She's very, very popular, and I just interviewed her the other day. (11:17) She's gonna be on the podcast next week. (11:19) I'll tell you something that no one else will know.

Scott Benner (11:21) But if I hear it in public, I'll know it was you that gave me up, Stephanie, because I don't think Trey's gonna remember. (11:25) I'm gonna put together, like, a five or six episode series with her about going into the ER with type one.

Stephanie (11:32) That would be awesome. (11:33) Yes. (11:33) And I do know who she is.

Scott Benner (11:35) She

Stephanie (11:35) just hopped across my Facebook feed in the last three or four week.

Scott Benner (11:41) Okay. (11:41) She got

Stephanie (11:42) And I started following her.

Scott Benner (11:43) Millions of followers, really something.

Stephanie (11:46) Yeah.

Scott Benner (11:46) My wife's been telling me about her for, like, years. (11:50) And then I think I don't know. (11:53) Like, a week or two. (11:54) It was probably two weeks ago now. (11:56) My wife brings her up again.

Scott Benner (11:57) She goes, you really should try to get her on the podcast. (12:00) I was like, why would she come on my podcast? (12:02) And then she put up a post about diabetes awareness, and then I basically, like, wrote a post and I was like, hey, everybody. (12:10) What if we all ask doctor Beach Jam if, you know, she wanted to come on the podcast? (12:15) And then she got inundated by people who listen to the podcast, which I appreciate.

Scott Benner (12:18) Thank you, everybody. (12:19) And then that got her on. (12:21) So, and she was lovely, like, really awesome. (12:24) So I'm excited about it. (12:25) Anyway Okay.

Scott Benner (12:27) So there's some autoimmune in your family. (12:29) You probably have Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism. (12:33) Yep. (12:34) Do you have a type one on a one of your cousins? (12:38) And how about your kids?

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Stephanie (14:44) Not that we know of other than Trey with his diabetes. (14:50) My daughter I'm I'm actually in the process of having my daughter's thyroid tested as we speak. (14:56) We were at the provider a couple weeks ago, and I have to catch up with them because we had a couple of weeks of tournaments.

Scott Benner (15:03) What's her symptoms?

Stephanie (15:05) Similar to mine. (15:06) She's got exhaustion. (15:07) She's got some stomach issues. (15:08) I was listening to one of the old episodes where you were talking about Arden and the stomach issues. (15:15) And that kind of triggered me to go, I think I need to have it all checked out.

Scott Benner (15:22) Yeah.

Stephanie (15:22) So we're in the middle of that right now.

Scott Benner (15:24) Okay. (15:25) Well, good luck. (15:25) I hope you get good news.

Stephanie (15:27) I just want answers.

Scott Benner (15:28) Yeah. (15:28) Or an answer. (15:29) One or the other. (15:30) Okay. (15:31) Cool.

Scott Benner (15:31) So, Trey, what's it like having diabetes for the last two years? (15:34) Your friend's cool with it? (15:36) Is it getting in the way of you playing?

Trey (15:38) Yeah. (15:38) My friends are cool with it. (15:41) Sometimes my alarm goes off during school and, like, during reading times when it's really quiet and they're allowed. (15:48) Mhmm. (15:49) So it's kind of embarrassing sometimes.

Scott Benner (15:51) You're embarrassed by it?

Trey (15:53) No. (15:54) By the alarm because it it it's like a screaming.

Scott Benner (15:57) Yeah. (15:57) Yeah. (15:57) I'm saying when that alarm goes off, you feel embarrassed?

Trey (16:00) Sometimes.

Scott Benner (16:01) Sometimes. (16:02) Oh, I'm sorry about that. (16:03) Do you usually mute them?

Trey (16:06) Yeah. (16:06) I watch it still though.

Scott Benner (16:08) You watch it. (16:09) You don't ignore it?

Trey (16:10) I don't ignore it. (16:11) I just mute I just mute it for the time being.

Scott Benner (16:13) Are you making most of your decisions or are you and your mom or dad doing it through text messages? (16:18) How do you handle school time?

Trey (16:19) Sometimes text messages. (16:21) Sometimes I handle it on my own with the school nurse.

Scott Benner (16:23) Okay. (16:24) You still go to the nurse?

Trey (16:25) Yeah.

Scott Benner (16:27) For everything or just some things?

Trey (16:29) For the lunch carbs because I get school lunch, and they have, like, the menu in there with all the carbs on it.

Scott Benner (16:34) Okay. (16:36) Okay. (16:37) Does that usually go well?

Trey (16:39) Yeah.

Scott Benner (16:40) You're pretty good with, like, how the boluses end up and everything?

Trey (16:44) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (16:45) Stephanie, are you good with how they end up?

Stephanie (16:47) He's doing really good. (16:49) Only thing that he could really work on is a little bit better pre bolus sometimes. (16:55) But

Scott Benner (16:56) Get in line, Trey.

Stephanie (16:59) In general, I'm I'm really proud of how he manages while he's at school because he is fairly independent. (17:08) The nurse follows him, but really more just to take care of the lows Mhmm. (17:16) Because he doesn't always catch them when he's in PE. (17:20) So she'll have to do that. (17:25) But most of the time.

Scott Benner (17:27) Most of the time, it goes well. (17:29) Trey, how does it feel to hear your mom say she's proud of you and she thinks you're doing a good job?

Trey (17:33) Yay.

Scott Benner (17:35) Is that is that the full contextualization of of how you feel? (17:39) Yay. (17:40) Oh, seriously though, like, it what what's that response like? (17:43) Does it is it embarrassing? (17:45) Or

Trey (17:45) It feels good.

Scott Benner (17:46) It feels good? (17:47) Okay. (17:48) Do you work hard at it?

Trey (17:51) Yeah.

Scott Benner (17:51) Nice to hear somebody say something that recognizes what you're doing? (17:56) Yeah. (17:56) Yeah. (17:57) Just hard to tell something nice to your mom. (17:59) Right?

Trey (17:59) Kind of.

Scott Benner (18:02) We don't want her to think she's doing too good of a job. (18:04) She might get a big hit. (18:05) You know what I mean?

Trey (18:06) Kind of.

Scott Benner (18:06) Let's say some bad stuff about her. (18:08) What does she suck at? (18:09) One thing she's not great at. (18:10) Tell me now.

Stephanie (18:11) Cooking eggs. (18:13) Cooking eggs.

Scott Benner (18:14) What does she make your

Trey (18:17) burns them every single time.

Scott Benner (18:19) Oh, Stephanie, why don't you know how to make eggs?

Stephanie (18:22) I do what every single time?

Scott Benner (18:23) You burn his eggs constantly.

Stephanie (18:25) Them. (18:25) There's no moisture left. (18:27) That's because he likes them runny. (18:30) He likes his scrambled eggs runny.

Scott Benner (18:32) Why are you fighting with him about that? (18:33) Let him have his eggs the way he wants them.

Stephanie (18:35) So he can make them the way he wants them.

Scott Benner (18:37) Oh, but you won't be making them the way he wants them.

Stephanie (18:39) Because I don't like them that way, and I don't make them that way.

Scott Benner (18:42) Oh, Trace, she's not willing to learn your style, my friend. (18:46) There's only so far no. (18:47) No. (18:47) No. (18:47) Stephanie, there's only so far your love will go, I see.

Scott Benner (18:50) That's fine.

Stephanie (18:51) That That's yeah. (18:51) Totally it. (18:52) I've tried. (18:53) It just doesn't happen.

Scott Benner (18:54) Can I tell you something? (18:55) I can I make eggs the way I make them, and my family complains about them? (19:00) And then they stood me in front of the stove and gave me a tutorial about how to make the eggs the way they want them. (19:09) I thought I was so embarrassed. (19:10) I was like, wait.

Scott Benner (19:11) Are you really all they all stood around me. (19:14) They're like, yeah. (19:14) Now flip it, turn the heat down, do this. (19:16) This is about see, right my Arden goes right here. (19:19) Here's where the cheese goes on.

Scott Benner (19:20) I was like, uh-oh, okay.

Stephanie (19:21) Oh, that's amazing. (19:22) Yeah.

Scott Benner (19:23) Yeah. (19:23) Well, so so you take it, Stephanie. (19:25) Just let him show you how to make the eggs and just do it. (19:27) I'll get this fixed for you, Trey. (19:28) Don't worry.

Scott Benner (19:29) Okay?

Stephanie (19:29) He has shown me. (19:31) I I I try.

Scott Benner (19:32) Is she trying, Trey, or is she resisting?

Trey (19:34) Nope. (19:35) Nope. (19:35) Nope. (19:36) She is

Stephanie (19:36) I don't take him out of the pan in time.

Scott Benner (19:38) Is this passive aggressive, Stephanie?

Trey (19:40) No.

Scott Benner (19:41) Are you sure?

Trey (19:43) Positive. (19:44) Forgets because she goes on Facebook during the cooking.

Scott Benner (19:46) Stephanie, that hurt must have hurt to hear him say that out loud.

Stephanie (19:50) My opinion of Dunneggs and his opinion of Dunneggs are two different opinions.

Scott Benner (19:55) How does it hurt when he points out that you're on social media while you're supposed to be cooking for him?

Stephanie (19:59) No.

Scott Benner (20:00) That you're okay with?

Stephanie (20:02) That that's fine.

Scott Benner (20:03) Sometimes we look over at Kelly and

Trey (20:04) I we're can't be complaining. (20:06) I watch YouTube and TikTok while I cook my egg, but I actually watch the eggs while I do it.

Scott Benner (20:11) Look at you. (20:12) You can multitask. (20:13) Does your mom have ADHD, do you think? (20:14) Maybe she can't focus.

Trey (20:16) I can't focus.

Scott Benner (20:17) Oh, you can't?

Trey (20:20) My brain won't let me.

Scott Benner (20:21) Stephanie, does he have a problem or no?

Stephanie (20:24) He might.

Scott Benner (20:25) Yeah. (20:25) Is it in the family?

Stephanie (20:27) My oldest. (20:28) Yeah.

Scott Benner (20:28) Okay. (20:29) My

Trey (20:30) Probably has ADHD.

Scott Benner (20:32) Trey, did you say my

Trey (20:33) drive now.

Scott Benner (20:33) Trey, did you say my brain won't focus?

Trey (20:36) Yeah. (20:36) My brain He said oh, I I thought

Stephanie (20:38) he said Ellie had ADHD.

Scott Benner (20:40) No. (20:40) He did, but he said my brain won't focus. (20:42) I think I heard it in between something there.

Trey (20:44) It won't let me focus.

Scott Benner (20:46) It won't let you. (20:46) Yeah. (20:47) It's it's

Trey (20:47) If I don't like the thing, can't focus on it.

Scott Benner (20:49) Your mom your mom won't let you eat eggs the way you want either. (20:55) How runny do you like them, Trey?

Trey (20:58) I don't like them too runny. (20:59) I like them semi runny where they actually still have moisture left.

Scott Benner (21:02) Can I make a suggestion for you, Trey? (21:04) It's gonna sound like an old man talking and you're not gonna make sense of it. (21:07) Yes. (21:08) A poached egg, you might love it.

Trey (21:11) I've tried poached eggs before. (21:12) They're they're pretty good.

Scott Benner (21:13) Yeah. (21:13) I love a poached egg. (21:14) As we were talking about it, I might eat it for lunch now that I'm saying it out loud.

Stephanie (21:18) He actually went on YouTube and watched a video to teach himself how to poach an egg.

Trey (21:25) I poached one egg one time

Scott Benner (21:27) Yeah.

Trey (21:27) And it turned out horribly because it exploded as soon as it hit the water, and then I I got mad.

Scott Benner (21:32) Okay. (21:32) So the water needs to be very low, not very hot, and you need to put, like, a tablespoon of white vinegar in the water. (21:39) And that helps the egg stay together in a nice form. (21:43) And then that that's the whole thing. (21:44) Right?

Scott Benner (21:45) And it's for all of you. (21:46) A little bit of white vinegar, low not a rolling boil or anything like that. (21:50) Like, low heat, put them in, then you can bring the heat up a little bit, and then you can kinda control it before you take it out. (21:58) Then I like taking it out with a, like, one of the like, a serrated spoon kind of a situation. (22:03) Yeah.

Scott Benner (22:04) Yeah. (22:04) And then I like to let the water come off it a little bit before I put it over my toast. (22:08) That's just me.

Stephanie (22:10) I put it in with a ladle.

Scott Benner (22:12) Look at you. (22:13) Gentle. (22:13) I don't do that. (22:14) I throw them in. (22:15) Boom.

Scott Benner (22:16) Like that. (22:17) Like, it's nothing. (22:18) Trey, do you know my son taught himself to parallel park with the YouTube video? (22:23) You guys, you're a different group. (22:25) Like, your your generation Amazing.

Scott Benner (22:27) Yeah. (22:27) Yeah. (22:27) We were we were I've probably told this before, so I'll go real quickly. (22:30) But we were, like, doing, like, a last minute practice before he was gonna go take his test. (22:35) And I just it hit me out of nowhere.

Scott Benner (22:37) He had never parallel parked the car, and I completely forgot that was part of the test. (22:41) And I said to him the day before, I was like, oh my god, Cole. (22:45) Like, we never taught you how to parallel park. (22:47) That's part of the test. (22:48) And he just stopped.

Scott Benner (22:50) Like, I tried to teach him, and he was like, he pulled out his phone, watched one video, and was like, alright. (22:56) Then he put the car in drive, drove around the parking lot, and parallel parked the car. (23:01) I was like, Okay. (23:04) I was like, guys are you guys are living in a different world. (23:06) The one your mom how how old's your mom again?

Scott Benner (23:08) You said she was old. (23:09) Right?

Trey (23:09) I think she's, like, 47 or 48.

Scott Benner (23:12) Oh, jeez. (23:13) Does she make noise when she stands up?

Stephanie (23:16) Sometimes.

Scott Benner (23:20) She stand up, she go, when she walks so after you guys are sitting on the sofa for an hour and she walks away, is she a little bent forward, or is she able to stand straight up and walk away, Trey?

Trey (23:30) She's able to stand straight up.

Scott Benner (23:32) Wow. (23:33) Look for that other thing to come.

Trey (23:34) Walking and running all over the hospital all the time.

Scott Benner (23:37) Oh, yeah. (23:38) Right? (23:39) That's your what was your job before this?

Stephanie (23:42) So I've had a couple of jobs. (23:43) Before the kids were born, I, taught middle school math and high school social studies. (23:49) And after that, I was home for several years, and I went back to manage a swim school after my youngest was about two. (24:01) And I did that for, like, five years.

Scott Benner (24:03) What made you go to nursing?

Stephanie (24:05) After my kids were born, I wanted to do childbirth, and I wanted to do midwifery. (24:11) I wanted to catch the babies.

Scott Benner (24:13) Yeah.

Stephanie (24:14) The easiest path in Illinois is as a nurse midwife, which recall would require me to have a nursing degree. (24:22) So that was my original path. (24:25) And then while in nursing school, Trey was diagnosed, and it kinda changed my whole trajectory. (24:31) My last semester, I was exposed to so many different things in nursing. (24:36) I was like, I don't wanna just do one thing.

Stephanie (24:38) I wanna do many things.

Scott Benner (24:40) Yeah. (24:41) Mid the midwife thing is, it's pretty crazy. (24:44) A midwife and a doula, those are two different things. (24:46) Right?

Stephanie (24:47) And I've done both. (24:48) Well, I haven't done midwife, but I was a doula, after my young my oldest was born.

Scott Benner (24:53) How many births have you been involved in?

Stephanie (24:55) About 15. (24:57) I only did it for about a year and a half before Ellie and I moved from Saint Louis to San Antonio where my husband was working for a year and a half. (25:10) And then I had another child, and it kind of became difficult to schedule.

Scott Benner (25:16) You're the middle child trend. (25:17) That's how that's how we got you.

Trey (25:19) Yeah. (25:19) I was born in San Antonio.

Scott Benner (25:21) Oh, yeah. (25:21) Tex. (25:21) You're a

Trey (25:22) Texan, technically. (25:23) Biggest city in the biggest state.

Scott Benner (25:24) Are you technically a Texan?

Stephanie (25:26) He is.

Scott Benner (25:27) Mhmm. (25:28) How does it feel? (25:29) Do you feel better than other people? (25:31) You don't judge? (25:32) Look at you.

Scott Benner (25:33) Real serious question, Stephanie. (25:34) Like, transformative to be around that many births? (25:37) Like, is it does it change your perspective on the world at all?

Stephanie (25:41) It is amazing to watch. (25:43) It's just every time a baby is born, I cry. (25:48) It's a renewal and a new opportunity, and it's just a miracle to watch.

Scott Benner (25:52) Yeah. (25:52) So

Stephanie (25:55) it's still a passion of mine, but trace diagnosis kind of changed my trajectory. (26:03) And instead of working in the birthing suite, more or less, I ultimately wanna work with the reproductive side of it and then endocrinology. (26:14) So I have one more step to go, and I'm going back for my nurse practitioner so that I can do endo.

Scott Benner (26:20) Oh, very nice. (26:22) I mean, being in the emergency department has gotta be the polar opposite of watching a child be born. (26:28) Right? (26:28) Like, isn't it is it crazy?

Stephanie (26:31) I mean, it's not it's not as crazy as you would think it is most of the time. (26:35) Really? (26:35) It's fast paced. (26:37) You never know what a day is going to bring. (26:40) Depending on which part of the ER I'm in, I could be in the main ER, and I could have a code come in.

Stephanie (26:46) I could have a critical care patient where I'm the only where they're my only patient. (26:51) But I could also be in our fast track area, and I can have six people. (26:57) Some are abdominal pain. (26:58) Some is maybe a broken bone. (27:00) Like, you never know what your day is gonna bring.

Scott Benner (27:02) Do you have experiences like, if I said to you, like, Stephanie, have you saved a life? (27:07) Can you, like, honestly say, yes, I have?

Stephanie (27:10) Yes.

Scott Benner (27:11) Yeah. (27:11) Isn't it crazy, Trey, that she saved someone's life but can't get your eggs right?

Stephanie (27:16) Yes. (27:16) Yeah.

Scott Benner (27:17) So it's disappointing, isn't it?

Trey (27:19) I mean simpler.

Scott Benner (27:21) You would think, but apparently not.

Stephanie (27:23) Depends on your perspective.

Scott Benner (27:25) I'm sorry. (27:27) I asked you that question just so I can say that. (27:29) That's right. (27:29) I feel bad now. (27:33) I just assume you've saved somebody's life if you're in the ER, but I was like, oh, how how can I get this back to the eggs is what I was thinking?

Scott Benner (27:41) Also

Stephanie (27:42) It's all about the eggs.

Scott Benner (27:43) It really is, honestly. (27:45) True enough. (27:46) So is, childbirth. (27:48) So Right? (27:49) Yeah.

Scott Benner (27:49) Yeah. (27:49) Right. (27:49) Everything's about the eggs, really. (27:51) And I am definitely having poached eggs for lunch when I'm done recording with you. (27:55) Yeah.

Scott Benner (27:55) I'm gonna finish recording with you. (27:57) I'm gonna have a call with John from Sugarpixel. (28:00) I don't know if you guys know Sugarpixel. (28:01) You know what that is?

Stephanie (28:02) I do.

Scott Benner (28:03) Yeah. (28:03) John and I are gonna go on a little tour of America in 2026. (28:07) I think we're doing ADA, a d c e s, Friends for Life together.

Stephanie (28:12) Oh, that will be fun.

Scott Benner (28:13) Yes. (28:13) It will. (28:13) Look for us. (28:14) We'll be out there. (28:15) I don't do a lot of that.

Scott Benner (28:16) What I just did just now, I feel like a YouTuber. (28:19) I'm like, subscribe and follow. (28:22) I'm gonna be, at ADACS. (28:25) Sorry. (28:25) I feel like a douchebag doing that.

Stephanie (28:27) That that's a lot of a lot of letters.

Scott Benner (28:30) A d a c s, American Diabetes Educator Care Specialists. (28:36) Is that right? (28:37) Oh, did I get that right?

Trey (28:39) It might be.

Scott Benner (28:40) Trey, let's look real quick because I would be super happy with myself if I got that right. (28:44) Give me a second. (28:45) A d a what? (28:46) Let's see.

Stephanie (28:47) Yeah. (28:48) Certified diabetes specialist, I think, is what it

Scott Benner (28:52) I don't know. (28:53) It's possible. (28:54) I have no idea. (28:54) They invited me to come speak a couple times, then I told them what I wanted to talk about, and they said no. (28:59) It's like, okay.

Scott Benner (29:00) Fine. (29:01) You're not a doctor. (29:02) You can't talk about that. (29:06) I don't know. (29:07) It's yeah.

Scott Benner (29:08) And then ADA, that one's easy.

Stephanie (29:11) Right.

Scott Benner (29:11) Friends for life. (29:12) Hey, you guys ever been to Friends for Life or anything like that? (29:14) Trey, do you know a lot of people with diabetes?

Trey (29:17) I know another lacrosse goalie with it. (29:19) His name is Anthony.

Scott Benner (29:21) Mhmm. (29:21) Wait.

Trey (29:22) I Seriously? (29:23) Used to play with him. (29:24) Yeah. (29:25) Yeah.

Scott Benner (29:26) You know another lacrosse goalie who has diabetes?

Stephanie (29:31) Yeah. (29:31) He's he's in the same general area of us, and we met him this summer. (29:40) I think the summer after Trey was diagnosed. (29:43) He either had a a Dexcom failure or he was running low. (29:50) And I was running around the field to bring him something.

Stephanie (29:56) The other dad was like, oh, I thought I heard a an alarm.

Scott Benner (30:01) No kidding.

Stephanie (30:02) And it yeah. (30:04) What

Scott Benner (30:04) a weird

Stephanie (30:04) He lives, like, thirty minutes from us. (30:08) He's a couple years older, and Trey's taken a couple of spots that he recommended and wears his Dexcom and his pump there for games and whatnot.

Scott Benner (30:21) Wow. (30:22) That's awfully bizarre and kinda cool. (30:25) So Yeah. (30:26) Yeah. (30:26) Yeah.

Scott Benner (30:27) Very what a what a strange little thing. (30:30) What makes you wanna do the podcast? (30:32) I'll start with you, Stephanie.

Trey (30:35) So

Stephanie (30:35) I really just enjoyed listening. (30:38) Trey was the one that wanted to do it. (30:40) I'm like, well, if you do it, I'll go on with you. (30:42) So Heath really the reason that we came on, he wanted to talk about dealing day to day with it as a a preteen and a kid and then how he manages athletically.

Scott Benner (30:55) Well, Trey, you wanted to come on the podcast, but your mom what you you you wanna bring your mommy with you? (31:00) What's going on, Trey?

Trey (31:01) She wouldn't let me do the podcast alone because I didn't think she trusted me yet.

Scott Benner (31:04) Did she just lie to me, Trey? (31:06) Did she just lie to me about why she's here?

Stephanie (31:08) I did not. (31:09) I

Trey (31:10) wanted to go on the podcast because I thought it'd be fun, and I wanted my own episode down there. (31:15) Yeah. (31:16) But I wanted to do it solo, and mom wouldn't let me.

Scott Benner (31:19) Oh my gosh, Trey. (31:21) Don't you think she should get off now? (31:23) Let us talk, and maybe she could go practice some eggs. (31:25) You know what I mean? (31:26) See if she can't

Trey (31:26) get a your eggs, mom.

Scott Benner (31:29) Can you imagine? (31:31) I don't mean that in any way way that someone's gonna yell at me for, like, he told that lady to get in the kitchen. (31:36) I heard him. (31:37) He doesn't like women. (31:39) I don't know.

Scott Benner (31:39) I I hear you and your complaints about the world out there. (31:43) Take it out on somebody else. (31:45) Okay. (31:46) So, Trey, tell me.

Stephanie (31:46) It's always the middle one. (31:48) They're the troublemakers.

Scott Benner (31:49) Trey, what is it you wanna do? (31:51) I mean, what is it you want people to know, or what do you wanna share?

Trey (31:54) So we started listening to your podcast, like, last year, was it, mom?

Stephanie (32:01) It was two years ago. (32:02) I found the podcast in September or October after he was diagnosed in the July.

Scott Benner (32:10) Mhmm.

Stephanie (32:10) Like, was like, there's gotta be an easier way to do this.

Trey (32:13) And we started we started listening to it, and we tried out pre bolus thing, and it worked really well because I didn't go to 250 after I ate my food.

Scott Benner (32:22) Yeah.

Trey (32:23) I stayed, like, at 200 max

Scott Benner (32:26) Nice.

Trey (32:26) For the first couple of for the first week that we tried it.

Scott Benner (32:30) Yeah.

Trey (32:30) And it worked really well. (32:32) So we we've been keep on doing that.

Scott Benner (32:34) Where do you hope that your blood sugar doesn't go above now when you eat? (32:38) What's your goal?

Trey (32:39) 200. (32:40) Don't go above 200.

Scott Benner (32:41) That's how you feel. (32:42) And how and what happens if you get to 200? (32:44) What do you do?

Trey (32:45) I take more insulin.

Scott Benner (32:47) Alright. (32:47) Look at you. (32:48) Stephanie, you're saying it wasn't going well. (32:50) So what? (32:51) He had diabetes for, like, three months and you started thinking, like, this can't be the answer?

Stephanie (32:55) Well, I was like, there's gotta be more. (32:58) You know, I I was managing okay, but it was every waking thought that I had was where's his number? (33:07) How much insulin has he had? (33:09) How much you know, how long do we have? (33:13) And then he wants to eat again.

Scott Benner (33:16) I know. (33:17) Right?

Trey (33:17) I like food. (33:18) Okay?

Scott Benner (33:18) Well, no. (33:19) No. (33:19) Trace, you're not doing anything wrong. (33:20) But, like, when you're a person who's trying to figure it out, like, just as you feel like you've got the bolus from the last meal figured out, somebody's like, I'm hungry. (33:27) And you're like, oh my god.

Scott Benner (33:27) I just need a second. (33:28) Hold on. (33:30) Just feels

Stephanie (33:31) like I was exhausted. (33:33) Yeah. (33:33) So it it was really

Scott Benner (33:35) So you find the podcast and you go right to management series stuff? (33:41) Is that what you did?

Stephanie (33:42) Well, actually, I started at the beginning. (33:45) So I'm still still working through the episodes. (33:48) I haven't listened to new episodes yet. (33:50) Oh.

Trey (33:50) More like episode 300 ish?

Stephanie (33:52) Nope. (33:53) Kidding. (33:53) About episode 400.

Scott Benner (33:55) Oh, I love that.

Stephanie (33:56) Still working through. (33:57) So, I mean, in two years, I've listened to not quite 400 episodes, but still working through it.

Scott Benner (34:04) But things are going the way you want now?

Stephanie (34:06) Yeah. (34:07) I mean, his last appointment, his A1C was five nine.

Scott Benner (34:10) Good job, man.

Stephanie (34:11) His endo walks in the room. (34:14) He goes, I don't have anything to say to you. (34:16) You're my best best patient of the day. (34:18) And, you know, he's had that a couple of times now. (34:21) He the last three A1C's were, like, 59, 6 or 61, and then 59 again.

Stephanie (34:29) The first time we got 59, he's like, oh, I wanna make sure you're not having too many lows. (34:33) And I'm like, really? (34:34) We're not.

Scott Benner (34:35) Yeah.

Stephanie (34:37) But okay. (34:38) I'll I'll be a little bit less aggressive.

Scott Benner (34:41) After you prove to him that that wasn't the case, did he leave you alone on that?

Stephanie (34:45) He did. (34:46) Over the summer, his a one c went from, like, that five nine to six or six one. (34:51) And the two weeks before we went in, he was at diabetes camp. (34:59) His blood sugar ran so high the whole week. (35:03) So I was able to see he's like, what happened here?

Stephanie (35:05) I'm like, oh, he was at camp. (35:07) Oh, okay.

Scott Benner (35:08) Trey, do you feel prepared to take care of yourself? (35:11) Like, if your mom just, like don't I know. (35:14) She just disappeared for five five days. (35:16) Would you be okay?

Trey (35:18) Yeah. (35:20) There's

Scott Benner (35:21) What is it that you've learned in the last two years that makes you feel like, yeah, I could be fine?

Trey (35:25) I can pre bolus early enough, and I have plenty of food, so I'll be okay.

Scott Benner (35:30) Yeah. (35:30) Do you get scared of being low ever?

Trey (35:33) No. (35:33) Not really.

Scott Benner (35:34) Have you been really low?

Trey (35:36) I've been to, like, low thirties. (35:39) Yeah. (35:41) Upper twenties of, like, the lows I've been, I think, like, 28, 29.

Scott Benner (35:45) How'd that feel? (35:45) Can you describe it?

Trey (35:46) I kept screaming for juice. (35:48) Just give me sanity. (35:49) Just juice.

Scott Benner (35:50) You're just yelling? (35:51) Were you being helped? (35:52) Like, somebody was helping you?

Trey (35:53) Yes. (35:54) Mom was bringing me food, but she was telling me to relax, otherwise, my blood sugar would go to infinite.

Scott Benner (35:59) Could you have Trey helped yourself if she wasn't there, do you think?

Trey (36:03) Yeah. (36:03) I probably would have just kept grabbing Maurice's food.

Scott Benner (36:05) Okay. (36:06) Stephanie, do you remember that situation?

Stephanie (36:08) There's been a couple of times where I've had to keep him from eating the kitchen.

Scott Benner (36:13) Yeah.

Stephanie (36:13) Wants to keep grabbing the food. (36:15) I'm like, okay. (36:16) So we've gotta give this a couple of minutes to work. (36:20) If we're not going back up in, ten, we will eat a little bit more. (36:24) Mhmm.

Stephanie (36:25) But as it is, I already am going to have to give you insulin.

Scott Benner (36:29) Can you talk a little bit about, like, the sort of psychological side of that when that's over? (36:34) Stephanie, do you go somewhere quiet for a minute? (36:36) Like, how does it hit you afterwards?

Stephanie (36:39) You know, it's

Scott Benner (36:41) Maybe the nursing brain doesn't let you feel too upset by it?

Stephanie (36:44) I feel like I respond less than a lot of my peers who don't have a lot of experience with diabetes. (36:54) I I mean, I respond, but I don't respond in that I'm going to throw all of the sugar at it kind of way.

Scott Benner (37:02) Yeah. (37:02) I mean, more like, are you upset about your son being low after like, after you've handled it, do you have, like, any existential, like, oh my god. (37:09) My kids got really low. (37:10) That was super close to a seizure kind of feelings?

Stephanie (37:13) It makes me nervous.

Scott Benner (37:15) Yeah.

Stephanie (37:15) You know, I almost congratulate myself. (37:17) Okay. (37:17) We prevented another one. (37:19) He's luckily never had, knock on wood, a seizure. (37:23) Always had glucagon on hand, but he he's never had to use it.

Stephanie (37:27) Again, knock on wood.

Scott Benner (37:28) Trey, which glucagon do you have?

Trey (37:30) We have, like, two or three pen ones.

Scott Benner (37:33) Yeah. (37:33) Gvoke.

Trey (37:34) And then I have one or two nasal.

Scott Benner (37:36) Wait. (37:37) You just got wait. (37:37) You got the whole thing. (37:39) Stephanie, why you got both of them? (37:40) What what's the play there?

Stephanie (37:42) So the Gvoke was what was prescribed first, and then I heard about the, Beschimi, I think is it. (37:50) I wanted to to see what it was about and try it.

Trey (37:53) Mhmm.

Stephanie (37:53) We haven't used it. (37:54) So I've got one prescription of that. (37:57) It was more about just having it on hand, and I feel like the Gvoke is more socially understood because it's the same as an EpiPen.

Scott Benner (38:09) Okay.

Trey (38:09) It's similar to EpiPen.

Scott Benner (38:10) Yeah. (38:11) Yeah. (38:11) But you still tried the Baqsimi?

Stephanie (38:13) Well, we have it. (38:14) We'd have never used

Scott Benner (38:15) it. (38:15) Yeah. (38:15) I mean, you but well, yeah. (38:16) But you you got it is what I'm saying. (38:18) Yes.

Scott Benner (38:18) I think that it's a thing that doesn't get used very often. (38:21) It's super important to have it. (38:22) I'm glad you have any. (38:23) I wanna be clear. (38:24) Everyone out there, you got Baqsimi, you got ChivoC.

Scott Benner (38:27) I'm happy you have happy you have glucagon with you. (38:29) I hope everybody's carrying it.

Trey (38:30) We have a Gvoke in the nurse's office at school.

Scott Benner (38:35) Mhmm.

Trey (38:36) We have one that sits at home in our little diabetes basket by the fridge where, we keep all my like, some all some stuff. (38:44) Yeah. (38:44) And then I have one of my diabetes bag I bring around with me.

Scott Benner (38:48) So you have them spread around because and you can't keep all of your glucagon in one basket. (38:54) Right?

Stephanie (38:55) Yep. (38:55) Nope.

Scott Benner (38:56) Yep. (38:56) Just like you don't want

Stephanie (38:57) eggs again.

Scott Benner (38:57) Yes. (38:58) Yes. (38:58) You don't wanna put all your eggs in one basket, Trey. (39:01) Trey, tell me about playing sports with diabetes. (39:04) What do you have to do to prep?

Scott Benner (39:05) What do you have to do while you're playing? (39:07) What do you have to do after you're playing?

Trey (39:09) So, when I go on the field for a goalie, I my my dad puts my blood sugar about, like, one thirty, one fifty ish. (39:16) So in case I drop, I have time to catch it.

Scott Benner (39:19) Okay.

Trey (39:19) Because I'm at a 100 and I start dropping. (39:22) Yeah. (39:22) I might not have enough time to catch it, and I might have to go off the field for a minute.

Scott Benner (39:26) You're wearing a pump?

Trey (39:28) Yes. (39:29) Which one? (39:29) Omnipod.

Scott Benner (39:30) Omnipod. (39:30) Omnipod five?

Trey (39:32) Oh, yes.

Scott Benner (39:33) What did do? (39:33) You set the target differently? (39:35) Because with that target, you put in, like, three different places. (39:37) You make a higher target.

Trey (39:38) In activity mode.

Scott Benner (39:39) Activity mode. (39:40) And that kinda brings your blood sugar up a little bit before you play.

Trey (39:43) Yeah.

Scott Benner (39:44) Do you eat before you play?

Trey (39:46) Sometimes.

Scott Benner (39:47) Do you find that you get low more frequently when you've eaten before the game?

Trey (39:51) Mhmm. (39:52) Because if I have insulin on board, it activates when I'm when I'm, like, doing workout and stuff. (39:57) When I'm exercising, it activates quicker, the insulin does. (40:00) And then my blood sugar goes down quicker.

Scott Benner (40:03) Try are trying to make me cry? (40:05) No. (40:05) I'm so happy you know that. (40:07) Thank you. (40:08) Oh, I feel like my life means something that you said that out loud.

Scott Benner (40:11) That's so awesome. (40:12) How did you learn that? (40:14) You. (40:15) Trey, I swear I I I I I'm gonna sound less manly than I did back when I was telling your mom to get back in the kitchen. (40:22) I got a tear in my eye from that.

Scott Benner (40:23) That was wonderful. (40:25) I mean, I'm so happy for you that you know that. (40:27) It's really

Trey (40:28) drinking water makes the insulin activate quicker?

Scott Benner (40:31) Yeah. (40:31) Staying hydrated, right, makes everything work better. (40:35) Do you guys get disconnected?

Stephanie (40:37) No. (40:38) I'm here.

Scott Benner (40:38) Okay. (40:39) Trey, are you there? (40:40) Yeah. (40:41) Oh, he's like voice did you you heard it too. (40:42) Right?

Scott Benner (40:43) Stephanie, like, voice started to, like, fade away while he was talking about water? (40:46) Am I the only one that heard that?

Stephanie (40:47) He was talking too long. (40:49) He just ran out of breath.

Scott Benner (40:52) Does that happen, Trey? (40:53) Do you sometimes talk so long you pass out? (40:56) No. (40:56) No?

Trey (40:57) I don't know. (40:57) My phone my phone glitches sometimes.

Scott Benner (40:59) That's okay. (40:59) Maybe you need a new phone for Christmas.

Stephanie (41:02) No. (41:02) I just got a new phone. (41:03) Couple months ago.

Scott Benner (41:04) Try I'm trying to help you.

Trey (41:05) Put My old phone's kind of exploded.

Scott Benner (41:08) Oh, yeah.

Trey (41:08) But it doesn't work anymore. (41:09) It doesn't wanna turn on.

Scott Benner (41:10) Yeah. (41:10) If you don't need the phone, then we pivot to something else that you want. (41:13) Don't just say no

Trey (41:14) so quickly. (41:15) Ebike.

Scott Benner (41:15) And mom

Trey (41:16) won't give me one because it's too expensive. (41:18) I want one. (41:18) It's, like, $600. (41:19) It goes, like, 30 miles an hour.

Scott Benner (41:21) Wait. (41:21) You wanna drive 30 miles an hour?

Stephanie (41:24) On an ebike. (41:24) The problem.

Scott Benner (41:25) I bet I was gonna say I bet you'd eat the $600 stopping you from getting the ebike because I heard all three of you are all over the country playing lacrosse. (41:31) Your mom's got 600. (41:32) She could she don't want you going that fast. (41:35) You understand?

Trey (41:35) I can go but I can go to school in ten minutes. (41:38) I don't can stay a little bit.

Scott Benner (41:39) Stop it, Trey. (41:40) I agree with your mom. (41:41) You're completely wrong. (41:42) You're not getting an ebike. (41:43) I'm sorry.

Trey (41:44) No fair.

Scott Benner (41:45) Your mother and I have spoken.

Trey (41:47) On PlayStation and PS five. (41:48) I'm giving you a PS five. (41:49) My PS four is glitchy. (41:51) It doesn't wanna work.

Scott Benner (41:52) Listen.

Stephanie (41:53) I love you too much to get an ebike for you because you make stupid choices sometimes.

Trey (41:58) I would I would decide to do the soup do the Superman flying pose while going 30 miles an hour down Main Street.

Stephanie (42:06) Yeah. (42:07) Like I said, stupid choices.

Scott Benner (42:08) Trey, I think it would be easier if your mom just grabbed you by the ankles, smacked your head on the ground, and then, like, and then saved the 600. (42:15) You know what I mean? (42:15) That's not good. (42:16) You don't you don't need that.

Stephanie (42:17) That could be arranged too.

Scott Benner (42:19) We're not saying that's not gonna happen. (42:21) Yeah, man. (42:21) I listen. (42:22) I hate to say this. (42:23) I don't usually say stuff like that.

Scott Benner (42:24) You're too young. (42:25) I wouldn't let you have it either.

Trey (42:26) I'm not sure.

Scott Benner (42:27) Yo. (42:27) You wanna know

Trey (42:28) what My friend has a ebike and they ride it to school. (42:30) It goes it go their their bike goes 50 miles an hour.

Scott Benner (42:33) You know why they have one?

Trey (42:34) Because their parents trust them.

Scott Benner (42:36) No. (42:36) Your mom knows why because their parents don't love them. (42:38) That's why.

Trey (42:39) Their parents own a a pizza place.

Scott Benner (42:42) Well, I don't know if that's Wait. (42:44) What does that got to do with anything?

Stephanie (42:46) Because their parents don't work in the ER and see kids come in with injuries from doing stupid things.

Trey (42:53) Yeah. (42:54) And also, they have they have a lot of money from the restaurant.

Scott Benner (42:57) The pizza money.

Trey (42:58) The pizza money.

Scott Benner (42:59) I'll tell you right now, Trey. (43:01) Your slightly offensive Italian accent aside, let me say this. (43:05) Okay? (43:06) I think about this all the time. (43:08) That pizza business has gotta be a cash cow.

Scott Benner (43:11) Right? (43:11) Because what are we really doing here? (43:13) Dough, cheese, an oven, little sauce. (43:16) Yeah. (43:18) Right?

Scott Benner (43:18) It can't be that the overhead's gotta be mostly the building. (43:22) I don't think the ingredients are much. (43:24) I think that's a that's a license to print money, that pizza thing. (43:27) People love pizza too.

Trey (43:29) Sally, shoo.

Scott Benner (43:31) What happened there? (43:32) I didn't hear.

Trey (43:33) My brother's here. (43:34) Sullivan, shoo.

Scott Benner (43:35) Yeah. (43:35) Get him out of there. (43:36) How old is he?

Trey (43:36) Shoo fly. (43:37) Mom's also on the podcast.

Stephanie (43:38) Go. (43:39) Trey, be nice.

Scott Benner (43:40) Yes, Trey. (43:41) I know you're trying to be funny, Trey. (43:42) And it's not working, but it's not your fault.

Trey (43:44) I'm gonna throw a dog toy at him.

Scott Benner (43:46) Oh, well, that would be

Stephanie (43:47) Sullivan is a whole

Scott Benner (43:50) Is a whole what?

Stephanie (43:51) A whole year and a half younger than Trey.

Scott Benner (43:54) Oh, Trey. (43:55) Yeah. (43:55) What's it like to be so much more mature?

Trey (43:58) I'm also bigger than him. (44:00) I'm I'm taller than him. (44:01) Yeah. (44:02) I'm gonna snipe you with a

Stephanie (44:04) shoe, boys.

Scott Benner (44:06) Yeah. (44:06) Don't throw things. (44:07) But if you throw something, make it a squeaky toy because that'll be funny.

Trey (44:10) Did you

Scott Benner (44:11) get him with a a toy? (44:12) A squeaky toy?

Trey (44:13) I hit him I hit him with one of my shoes.

Scott Benner (44:15) I don't think that's right. (44:16) Although, Ike Turner found it very effective.

Trey (44:19) It is very effective.

Scott Benner (44:21) Yeah. (44:21) That's a joke for maybe five people.

Stephanie (44:23) This is my every day.

Scott Benner (44:25) Yeah. (44:26) No, Stephanie. (44:26) You have a you have a problem over there. (44:27) I know. (44:28) The two boys that close in age, that's not good.

Stephanie (44:30) Nineteen months apart, and it's it's it's constant. (44:34) Yes. (44:35) Sometimes he feeds it.

Scott Benner (44:39) You think he's doing that, to get back at you, or do you think he's what do you think's going on there?

Stephanie (44:45) My husband was one of seven. (44:47) His house was always like that too.

Scott Benner (44:49) Oh, he just likes it. (44:50) Yeah. (44:50) It probably feels normal to him.

Trey (44:51) It it

Stephanie (44:52) he thrives on it. (44:53) A little crazy.

Scott Benner (44:54) You got any brothers or sisters, Stephanie?

Stephanie (44:56) I have two. (44:57) I have one of each. (44:58) I'm the oldest of three.

Scott Benner (44:59) Okay. (45:00) Alright. (45:00) I hear that you're the oldest in your voice when you talk about this stuff, by the way.

Trey (45:04) The youngest one of her siblings is my uncle Steven.

Scott Benner (45:07) Oh, yeah? (45:09) What what

Trey (45:10) Uncle Steven

Scott Benner (45:10) Go ahead.

Trey (45:11) He he he lives on, like, a farm ish. (45:15) He he has two horses named Flash and Bentley. (45:18) He also has two goats named Andy and Ella. (45:21) And my little cousins, they're they're fun to play with. (45:24) One's five and one's, like, two year old.

Scott Benner (45:25) Yeah.

Trey (45:26) Right, Grandma? (45:27) Yes.

Scott Benner (45:27) That's cool. (45:28) Hey. (45:29) Although I don't understand what farm ish means.

Stephanie (45:31) It it is a farm pet.

Scott Benner (45:34) Does he have chickens?

Trey (45:36) Yes. (45:36) He has chickens.

Scott Benner (45:37) Do they lay eggs?

Trey (45:40) Yes. (45:41) They make the eggs. (45:42) They make the breakfast.

Scott Benner (45:43) Do you ever have the eggs from the chickens from the uncle Steven?

Trey (45:46) Sometimes. (45:47) They give them to us sometimes.

Scott Benner (45:48) Are they better than the eggs from the store?

Trey (45:51) Yes.

Scott Benner (45:52) How? (45:52) Please tell me how.

Trey (45:54) They're more fresh, so they taste better. (45:56) They don't go through weird factory processes.

Scott Benner (45:59) Mhmm. (46:00) Mhmm.

Trey (46:00) They just come from the chicken coop. (46:02) They get washed off, and then they get put in egg carton and sent to us.

Scott Benner (46:06) Sounds like Steven It

Stephanie (46:07) really is all about the eggs. (46:08) My gosh.

Scott Benner (46:09) Well, let's say you guys brought it up, not me. (46:12) Steven, sounds like he got ahold of you, told you good about those eggs.

Trey (46:16) Eggs. (46:17) Yummy.

Scott Benner (46:18) Yeah. (46:18) Yeah. (46:18) Yeah. (46:18) And they're from Chicago? (46:20) They're Chicago eggs?

Stephanie (46:22) They are Chicago eggs. (46:24) Chicagoland eggs. (46:25) Chicago.

Scott Benner (46:26) Local politics in Chicago is

Stephanie (46:28) Almost Wisconsin eggs.

Scott Benner (46:29) Almost oh, West ish?

Stephanie (46:32) Far Northwest.

Scott Benner (46:33) How far how close are you to the train station?

Stephanie (46:35) Which train station?

Scott Benner (46:37) By the football field.

Stephanie (46:38) Union State or downtown?

Scott Benner (46:39) I think yeah. (46:40) Yeah. (46:40) Yeah.

Trey (46:41) We're about a two hour drive from

Stephanie (46:42) the It's about an hour and twenty minute train drive.

Scott Benner (46:45) The problem there is that Trey was doing the math on an ebike and you were doing the math in the car. (46:49) He's like, that's about two hours. (46:50) Yeah. (46:51) Two hours by ebike.

Trey (46:52) Drive. (46:53) It's it's two hour drive in a car.

Scott Benner (46:55) Your mom says no?

Trey (46:57) That's with The train the train doesn't stop, though. (46:59) The train doesn't stop, though.

Scott Benner (47:01) Wait. (47:01) What the hell are you talking about, Trey?

Trey (47:03) She you the train she said a train ride is an hour hour long there.

Scott Benner (47:08) From where you are? (47:09) You have a train near you?

Trey (47:11) We have a train about twenty ish minutes from our house.

Scott Benner (47:13) I gotcha.

Trey (47:14) Train station.

Scott Benner (47:15) How do you like living in the Midwest and where it's cold? (47:18) Have you ever lived the other I mean, you lived in Texas. (47:20) Right? (47:21) What what are your feelings?

Trey (47:22) I lived in Texas for the first three two or three months of my life, and then I took an airplane up to Illinois.

Scott Benner (47:27) Right. (47:28) I'm talking about your mom trying to your mom lived in Texas. (47:31) I know you didn't stay there long. (47:32) How long were you there, Stephanie?

Stephanie (47:34) So we were in Texas a little over a year and of, like, fifteen months. (47:40) I loved it. (47:41) I met, like, my group of people down there, but, sadly, my husband was on a a temporary assignment, and he didn't get a permanent position down there. (47:51) So we went back to where the corporate office was.

Scott Benner (47:54) I see. (47:55) I see. (47:55) But you wished you were in Texas?

Stephanie (47:57) Yeah. (47:58) I loved it.

Trey (47:58) Yeah. (47:59) I don't like the cold. (48:01) The cold sucks.

Scott Benner (48:03) In Chicago?

Trey (48:05) I don't like the cold.

Scott Benner (48:06) I don't either, Trey. (48:07) It's upsetting to me. (48:09) Starting to get cold here now, even though it doesn't work the same way as it did when I was a kid. (48:13) Like, by by now like, Stephanie, you're not my age, but you're close enough. (48:16) Like, by now November, it would have been, like, borderlining on getting frigid right now.

Scott Benner (48:20) Like, it would start getting yeah. (48:22) And it's it's nice. (48:23) My grass is still green. (48:24) It's ridiculous.

Stephanie (48:26) We're still pretty green here. (48:27) I mean, the trees are most well, they're mostly changed, and a lot of them have lost their leaves, but it's late this year for that. (48:35) Yeah. (48:36) And yeah. (48:37) I mean

Scott Benner (48:38) Feels like it shifts more every year.

Stephanie (48:41) Really does.

Scott Benner (48:41) Yeah. (48:42) Like, it doesn't get super cold here, like, until February and March now. (48:46) Like, it's just I don't know.

Trey (48:47) It's

Scott Benner (48:48) strange. (48:49) Anyway, I agree with Trey. (48:50) Let's all go to Texas. (48:51) I don't want bad allergies, though. (48:52) Is that gonna happen to me in San Antonio?

Stephanie (48:55) My allergies weren't bad in San Antonio.

Scott Benner (48:57) Alright. (48:57) I'm on my way then. (48:58) Let's go.

Stephanie (48:58) I'm tired. (48:58) I'm tired of this. (48:59) I mean, we just spent the last week in Florida. (49:01) And if it wasn't for the humidity, I would stay there too.

Scott Benner (49:04) Yeah. (49:05) Bugs too.

Trey (49:05) Not fair. (49:06) I wanted to go.

Scott Benner (49:07) Well, you had school. (49:10) No. (49:10) What do you mean no? (49:11) You didn't have school?

Trey (49:12) Well, they left Thursday night. (49:13) And I got out of school. (49:15) I got early release on Friday, which was at 12:30.

Scott Benner (49:18) They didn't wanna take you because you're a pain in the ass or what? (49:20) Why didn't you get to come?

Trey (49:22) I didn't get to come because it was my sister's tournament, and they did not feel like paying an extra, like, $600 for me to go there and back.

Scott Benner (49:30) Yeah. (49:30) It makes sense.

Trey (49:31) Plus food costs.

Scott Benner (49:32) They could have paid for the ebike with that money they saved.

Stephanie (49:35) Well, I mean, I told them. (49:37) They get a tournament in in in Florida, and and you're good to go.

Scott Benner (49:40) Yeah. (49:41) Oh, I see. (49:41) Oh, she got invited. (49:42) Right? (49:42) Like, she's down there getting recruited?

Stephanie (49:45) Her her team went. (49:46) It was a recruiting tournament for her team. (49:49) She's on a twenty twenty seven, an all junior team. (49:53) So

Scott Benner (49:53) Nice. (49:54) That's awesome. (49:55) Alright. (49:55) So where are we taking all this, Trey? (49:57) Like, we've got our Omnipod five.

Scott Benner (49:59) We're doing great with our a one c. (50:01) You sound like you're on top of what's going on. (50:03) You're learning about your diabetes. (50:04) Like, how do you see this going the next couple of years, and are you thinking of going to college?

Trey (50:11) Yes. (50:11) College. (50:12) I hope my blood sugar stays good, and my a one c stays good for the next couple years.

Scott Benner (50:16) What are you thinking about? (50:17) I know you're only 13, but this is the oldest you've ever been, so I don't mean to say only 13. (50:22) But you

Trey (50:23) turned 13, about, like, three weeks ago.

Scott Benner (50:25) Oh, you just turned 13. (50:27) Happy birthday. (50:28) What'd you get?

Trey (50:30) I got $20 from my auntie Kim with, she lives in Maryland. (50:34) Nice. (50:34) Or no. (50:34) She lives in, like, Maryland, Virginia border.

Scott Benner (50:38) Wow. (50:38) Hey. (50:38) Listen. (50:39) In Maryland money, that 20 is a 50. (50:40) Now what else you got?

Scott Benner (50:42) That's what you got. (50:42) You got $20 for your birthday. (50:43) Your mom gets you anything?

Trey (50:45) She got me a a cool lacrosse goalie sticker, but my friends, they got me a birthday crown.

Scott Benner (50:52) Nice. (50:53) Did anybody make your eggs the way you like them for your birthday?

Trey (50:55) They got me a watermelon mango peelers gummy thingies.

Scott Benner (50:59) Okay.

Trey (51:00) They were also really good.

Scott Benner (51:01) Nice. (51:02) Nice.

Stephanie (51:03) And what did we get you right before your birthday? (51:06) What did we just replace?

Scott Benner (51:09) Was it the phone?

Stephanie (51:10) Your goalie head.

Scott Benner (51:12) Oh, your goalie?

Trey (51:13) Yeah. (51:13) My goalie head, it kinda, it kinda started cracking at the base where it connects to the shaft to the stick. (51:19) They started cracking.

Scott Benner (51:21) Wait. (51:21) Wait. (51:21) Wait. (51:21) What's goal what's a goalie head?

Trey (51:24) It's basically a lacrosse head that's the size of a watermelon. (51:26) It can hold a watermelon.

Scott Benner (51:27) I don't understand what it's for, though.

Stephanie (51:29) It's for saving the lacrosse stick.

Scott Benner (51:33) Wait. (51:33) I'm I'm I I need an image of this.

Trey (51:36) So it's something called a gold stick.

Scott Benner (51:38) Oh. (51:38) Oh, it's the thing that holds the net on the end of your stick. (51:42) Mhmm. (51:43) Oh, I

Stephanie (51:43) got it. (51:44) And he got he got a whole new stick. (51:45) He got his new head strung and dyed and a new shaft. (51:54) So

Trey (51:54) I I call my stick the Loki leprechaun because I have shamrocks, and it and it has golden lettering on it, and it's green.

Scott Benner (52:05) Dude, you are like a font of offensive impersonations. (52:08) I love you. (52:12) You called the are you Irish?

Trey (52:14) Oh, German Irish.

Scott Benner (52:15) Oh, okay. (52:16) I was gonna say, where did she come up with just because it was green?

Trey (52:19) Lucky leprechaun.

Scott Benner (52:20) She could've

Trey (52:21) got Is it Lucky leprechaun?

Scott Benner (52:22) Because if it's green, you could've called it Godzilla. (52:24) There's lot of things you could've done.

Trey (52:26) Well, it's It was supposed to Hulk head. (52:28) It used originally used to be the Hulk stick.

Scott Benner (52:31) Mhmm.

Trey (52:31) So I I kinda send kids flying if they get too close to my crease.

Scott Benner (52:36) Yeah. (52:36) Yeah.

Trey (52:37) But now it's the lucky leprechaun.

Scott Benner (52:39) Yeah. (52:39) My wife does that too. (52:41) Alright. (52:41) That one just fell flat. (52:43) It's okay.

Scott Benner (52:44) Don't worry. (52:44) Anyway, for the people listening, they got it. (52:46) You get too close to Kelly's crease, she sends you flying. (52:49) That's what

Stephanie (52:49) I I got it. (52:50) I was letting Trey

Scott Benner (52:51) do this stupid thing. (52:53) You didn't do anything. (52:54) Trey, you did nothing. (52:57) Trey, I like you, but you're not exactly a man of many words. (53:02) No.

Scott Benner (53:03) What made you think you could do a podcast by yourself for an hour?

Trey (53:07) I don't know.

Scott Benner (53:10) You should say hubris, Scott.

Trey (53:12) But my parents my parents say I never stopped talking.

Scott Benner (53:15) I know, but I asked you a question. (53:17) You went, yeah. (53:18) You you broke my heart on that one earlier. (53:21) I was like, tell me, yeah, how's that make you feel? (53:23) And you went, yeah.

Scott Benner (53:24) I was like, uh-oh.

Trey (53:26) I said, yay.

Scott Benner (53:27) Yeah. (53:27) I don't know. (53:28) I I can't remember. (53:29) It was, like, twenty minutes ago.

Stephanie (53:29) So that might that might be going back to that why mom said, maybe I'll go on with you.

Scott Benner (53:34) Yeah. (53:35) No. (53:35) I was trying to give her some I was trying to give her some credit here. (53:37) You did a good job. (53:39) Did a good job.

Scott Benner (53:40) Trae, who helps you more with your diabetes? (53:43) Your mom or your dad?

Trey (53:44) Mom.

Scott Benner (53:45) Does your dad know anything about it?

Trey (53:47) Yes.

Scott Benner (53:48) Okay. (53:49) Ish. (53:49) Ish. (53:50) Meaning?

Trey (53:51) Not as much as my mom.

Scott Benner (53:53) Do you know more about it than your dad does? (53:55) Yes. (53:55) Okay. (53:57) Is your dad busy?

Trey (53:59) I didn't hear you.

Scott Benner (54:00) Why do you think your dad has less knowledge about it?

Trey (54:03) Because my mom's a nurse, and she know and she works with kids with diabetes.

Scott Benner (54:07) Think he's deferring to her?

Trey (54:10) Yeah. (54:10) He refers to her a lot sometimes.

Scott Benner (54:12) Mhmm.

Trey (54:13) A lot of the time, he refers to her.

Scott Benner (54:15) Do you wish he knew more about it, or are you happy with the division of labor on this?

Trey (54:19) Oh, I wish he knew more about it. (54:21) I wish he knew as much as my mom. (54:23) How

Scott Benner (54:24) come?

Trey (54:24) Because then when my mom's on lacrosse shifts or she's at work for multiple hours at a time because she works twelve hour and sixteen hour shifts, I wish my dad knew like, my mom knows, like, twice as much as he does.

Scott Benner (54:40) Tell me why, though. (54:41) Why do you wish she knew more?

Trey (54:42) Because, he wouldn't have to call my mom so often. (54:46) Wouldn't have to and my mom wouldn't have to call him if my blood sugar goes high and I'm handling it, but yeah.

Scott Benner (54:52) Yeah. (54:52) But but women love it when their husbands call them and ask them all kinds of inane questions. (54:58) Don't you, Stephanie?

Trey (54:59) My mom doesn't my mom gets mad.

Scott Benner (55:01) No. (55:01) No. (55:02) I was I was being frustrates her. (55:03) Yeah. (55:03) Try I was being sarcastic.

Scott Benner (55:04) They hate that. (55:05) I'm pretty comfortable saying that, like, across the board. (55:09) So can I tell a story here?

Trey (55:12) Yeah.

Scott Benner (55:12) In honor of the Thanksgiving? (55:15) I brought our turkey home yesterday, and I got home and I put it on the counter. (55:19) And I said to Kelly, I said, Kelly, why don't you come out and, like, find a place to put this in the refrigerator? (55:23) Now I say that because Kelly buys too much food and overstuffs the refrigerator. (55:29) It's her fault.

Scott Benner (55:30) Everyone knows it. (55:30) I am not saying anything.

Trey (55:31) My mom overstuffs the fridge as well because I eat everything.

Scott Benner (55:34) I I know it. (55:35) I know. (55:35) Don't worry, Trey. (55:36) And so I don't like, because then something falls, then I get irritated, then she's irritated with me for being irritated that something fell. (55:43) And then, like so I just was like, why don't you come out and just do this, and I'll go do something else?

Scott Benner (55:47) And that way, you know, you can put this where you want it. (55:50) And she said, oh, can't you figure out how to get the turkey in the refrigerator by yourself? (55:55) She's being sarcastic with me, Trey. (55:57) And so I said, oh, no. (55:58) No.

Scott Benner (55:58) No. (55:59) No. (55:59) I'll take care of it. (56:00) So I put the turkey in the refrigerator. (56:03) Now why don't I wanna be the one to put the turkey in the refrigerator?

Scott Benner (56:05) Trey, you don't understand this yet because you're not married, But I don't want to later open myself up for commentary about how I put the turkey in the refrigerator, which is a real reason why I wanted her to do it, not because she's better at it than I am.

Stephanie (56:17) Because you were gonna do it wrong.

Scott Benner (56:18) Stephanie, that's neither here nor there, and it's not where the story ends. (56:21) So then when the story ends, it's when she looks up at me a couple minutes later and and tries to make a point sarcastically by going, oh, I see you got the turkey in the refrigerator without my help. (56:34) Meaning, you should have left me alone and not bothered me on this because you got you you see where I'm going with all this. (56:40) I, without a moment's notice and, Trey, this is why you don't mess with somebody who has what they call a quick wit. (56:46) Okay?

Scott Benner (56:47) I said, well, Kelly, it turns out that the reasons I think you're valuable around here are going down every moment. (56:55) You really should have come out here and taken care of this refrigerator thing because now I'm seeing that, you know You

Trey (57:01) did not.

Scott Benner (57:02) Maybe I did. (57:03) Try because I'm I've been married for thirty years. (57:05) I I know I'm not gonna get to be happy anymore. (57:07) So now this is where I get my happiness. (57:09) And so I said, I said, your your value here is is going down.

Scott Benner (57:13) Like, I I I don't even know why we're keeping you around exactly. (57:18) And I said, and you're quite the drain on resources. (57:24) I stopped myself from saying the next thing that popped in my head.

Trey (57:28) What was it?

Scott Benner (57:29) I don't know, Trey. (57:30) You're kinda young. (57:32) Trey, you know what happens to the ladies every month?

Trey (57:35) Yes.

Scott Benner (57:36) Yeah. (57:36) Okay. (57:36) So, I was gonna say you're quite the drain on resources, and we have to buy all those extra things for your vagina. (57:44) That's what I was gonna say. (57:46) But I kept that part in my head because I'm not completely stupid.

Scott Benner (57:52) But I was so proud of myself when I said you're quite the drain on resources, and now I have to reassess what it is you're adding back into the house because of this refrigerator thing. (58:02) Anyway, I was just tickled. (58:05) I thought if that was in a movie, that'd be a very funny moment. (58:09) And then she did not she did not think that was funny at all, in case anybody's wondering. (58:13) So anyway, Trey, my turkey's in the refrigerator.

Scott Benner (58:16) It's safe. (58:17) How big is your bird, Stephanie?

Stephanie (58:19) So I just got home at 10:30 last or 11:00 last night. (58:24) I have to go out today after we finish recording and buy it.

Scott Benner (58:26) Stephanie, you don't have a bird yet?

Stephanie (58:28) Nope. (58:29) And pray that it's thawed by the time I have to soak it in two days.

Scott Benner (58:32) So and you're gonna be cooking for five people?

Stephanie (58:35) Yeah. (58:36) I'm just cooking for the five of us.

Scott Benner (58:37) What size, bird do you like there for that?

Stephanie (58:40) So we normally get way bigger than we need because we Leftovers. (58:46) I have leftovers, and I make stoop and stuff.

Scott Benner (58:50) Do a whole thing.

Stephanie (58:52) So yeah. (58:52) Yeah. (58:53) I mean

Scott Benner (58:53) You get 20 pounds? (58:54) You go bigger?

Stephanie (58:56) Probably about 20. (58:57) Maybe not quite, but close.

Trey (58:59) Mom, get a 50 pound bird.

Scott Benner (59:01) Well, don't make this.

Stephanie (59:01) They don't make it.

Scott Benner (59:02) Yeah. (59:02) I did see a 37 once, though. (59:05) Have you ever bought a fresh turkey? (59:06) Splurged?

Stephanie (59:07) We have. (59:08) We had there's a couple of farms near us that have them and do all the things.

Scott Benner (59:14) Trey, how come uncle

Trey (59:15) turkeys on the street, I'm wondering why my dad can't just go pick one of

Scott Benner (59:18) those up. (59:19) I don't think he can eat those. (59:20) I think that's different. (59:21) And, how come uncle Steven doesn't have some turkeys? (59:23) Why can't he get involved in that?

Stephanie (59:24) Because auntie Mandy loves her turkeys and names every single one of them.

Scott Benner (59:28) Oh, wait.

Stephanie (59:28) Or not turkeys, chickens.

Scott Benner (59:30) Well, let's get a let's get let's get some turkeys working over there, and we can, wouldn't that be nice if a couple years from now you could go murder a turkey and then have it for Thanksgiving, Trey?

Trey (59:39) Auntie Manny would not be happy with that.

Scott Benner (59:41) No? (59:41) Wait. (59:42) So they have a bunch of animals. (59:43) They don't eat them?

Trey (59:44) Nope. (59:45) They eat they eat the, eggs from the chicken. (59:47) That's about it.

Scott Benner (59:48) We joked about eating we joked we joked about eating Friday last night.

Trey (59:53) Who's Friday?

Scott Benner (59:54) Harden's like, look how is my daughter's puppy. (59:57) Look how cute he is. (59:58) I could just eat him. (1:00:00) Don't you wish he was this turkey so we could have him this week? (1:00:03) She was being sweet, but I was just thinking

Stephanie (1:00:05) I I could just dabble him up kind

Scott Benner (1:00:06) of thing. (1:00:07) Yeah. (1:00:07) That was that. (1:00:07) But I was thinking, like, oh, it would be nice to get rid of this dog. (1:00:12) But I don't think he would taste good at all, Trey.

Stephanie (1:00:15) No. (1:00:16) Probably not.

Scott Benner (1:00:16) Yeah. (1:00:17) Trey, do you have a dog?

Trey (1:00:18) I have two dogs. (1:00:20) Sometimes, they eat my sister's clothes.

Scott Benner (1:00:22) Yeah. (1:00:22) I'd rather that.

Trey (1:00:23) At least.

Scott Benner (1:00:24) And I saw my dog outside the other day. (1:00:27) I was like, what's he doing? (1:00:28) Then I realized what he was doing. (1:00:29) It made me upset.

Trey (1:00:31) What was he doing?

Scott Benner (1:00:32) He was eating deer like it was candy.

Stephanie (1:00:34) Pepper doesn't eat it, but she does roll in it.

Scott Benner (1:00:37) Oh, I don't know which I prefer. (1:00:40) Those both of those things are terrible. (1:00:42) Trey, real quick.

Stephanie (1:00:43) She's a white dog, and she comes in brown sometimes.

Scott Benner (1:00:46) Oh, Jesus. (1:00:47) Trey, real quickly. (1:00:49) Be serious about this. (1:00:51) Would you rather eat deer poop or roll in deer poop?

Trey (1:00:55) Roll in it because I could clean it off.

Scott Benner (1:00:57) Even if it was on your face?

Trey (1:00:59) I could still clean it off. (1:01:00) I can't get that taste out

Scott Benner (1:01:01) of my mouth. (1:01:02) It's the right answer, Son. (1:01:03) Good job. (1:01:04) And then And

Trey (1:01:05) my dog, one of our dogs, Louie, he's the younger of the two. (1:01:09) He caught a squirrel the other day.

Scott Benner (1:01:11) When you say caught it, do you mean murdered it?

Stephanie (1:01:14) Murdered it. (1:01:14) Mhmm. (1:01:14) It it

Trey (1:01:15) was laying lifeless in the in our in our yard with its with one of its legs missing.

Scott Benner (1:01:21) Oh my god. (1:01:22) Really? (1:01:22) What kind of dog?

Trey (1:01:24) He is like a a black lab chihuahua. (1:01:27) He likes he

Scott Benner (1:01:28) likes Wait. (1:01:28) Hold on. (1:01:29) He almost made me curse. (1:01:30) No. (1:01:31) He's not.

Scott Benner (1:01:31) Is he really?

Stephanie (1:01:32) He is really. (1:01:33) He looks like a miniature. (1:01:34) Wait.

Scott Benner (1:01:35) Trey, do you guys cursed at the house?

Trey (1:01:37) Yes.

Scott Benner (1:01:38) Yeah. (1:01:38) I because I was like, get the fuck out of here. (1:01:40) You don't have a black lab chihuahua. (1:01:42) Do you really?

Trey (1:01:43) Yes. (1:01:44) Yes. (1:01:44) We do.

Scott Benner (1:01:44) Hold on a second. (1:01:46) Black lab.

Trey (1:01:46) He's like a miniature black lab and, he's a mama's boy. (1:01:50) So you could

Scott Benner (1:01:52) Oh, wait. (1:01:52) These are adorable dogs.

Trey (1:01:54) Lou Louie will grab that pillow and start you know what sharks do when they grab onto something they're eating? (1:01:59) They, like, shake their heads around and try to rip it off.

Scott Benner (1:02:01) Sure. (1:02:01) I saw a shark wave.

Trey (1:02:02) And that's what Louie does.

Scott Benner (1:02:03) Are these called labra hoohos?

Stephanie (1:02:06) I don't know what to call him. (1:02:07) We we we say that he's a little bit Too astral. (1:02:10) Avidors. (1:02:10) Chewabadors.

Scott Benner (1:02:11) You're just making these words up as are the people on the Internet, but there's a lot of people making out names for these dogs on the Internet. (1:02:17) I've got cha oh my god. (1:02:19) Chewabadors. (1:02:20) I've got labra hooahua. (1:02:22) What the hell is wrong with everybody?

Trey (1:02:37) The sound of a nuclear bomb going off.

Scott Benner (1:02:41) Wait a minute. (1:02:41) You've heard a nuclear bomb go off?

Trey (1:02:44) He scream he he barks at people, and it is so unreasonably loud.

Scott Benner (1:02:48) Oh, okay. (1:02:49) You misspoke. (1:02:49) You said he he he okay. (1:02:51) I got it.

Trey (1:02:52) Screams louder than any

Scott Benner (1:02:53) Then you're imagining a neutron bomb would make that same noise.

Trey (1:02:58) It would be quieter than Louis.

Scott Benner (1:03:00) I hear what you're saying. (1:03:01) Hey. (1:03:01) You know what? (1:03:01) Isn't it interesting, Trey, that we're okay with people taking dogs and mixing them together to make certain outcomes, but we don't do that with people. (1:03:08) It's weird.

Scott Benner (1:03:09) Right?

Trey (1:03:09) Don't think it's legal with people.

Scott Benner (1:03:10) Legal. (1:03:11) Well, you can't make people have babies. (1:03:13) That's not what I'm saying. (1:03:14) I'm saying when people date, they don't often think, oh, me with that person mixed will end up with a nice outcome. (1:03:21) I don't think people think like that.

Scott Benner (1:03:23) You know what I mean?

Trey (1:03:24) Yes.

Scott Benner (1:03:25) I can't believe my kids aren't like a mess. (1:03:27) I'm stunned, actually. (1:03:30) I have really attractive kids. (1:03:32) I don't even know how it happened. (1:03:33) And I'm not just saying that because they're my kids.

Scott Benner (1:03:35) They're and don't go looking them up online, you weirdos. (1:03:37) Just relax and believe me. (1:03:39) Okay? (1:03:39) But and my kids are really attractive, and it freaks me out because I was worried. (1:03:43) I'm not gonna lie to you.

Scott Benner (1:03:44) Like, my wife's pretty, but, like, I I thought I was gonna ruin that mix easy. (1:03:47) You know what I mean? (1:03:49) But it didn't work out like that, Trey. (1:03:52) What do you know, buddy? (1:03:53) Alright.

Scott Benner (1:03:53) Listen. (1:03:53) I think we're done. (1:03:54) I've enjoyed this.

Trey (1:03:55) I eat tunes, though.

Scott Benner (1:03:56) Woah. (1:03:57) Now we're not done. (1:03:58) What'd you just say?

Trey (1:03:59) What what do I eat tunes,

Scott Benner (1:04:02) Do you swallow it?

Stephanie (1:04:04) Yes. (1:04:05) Trey. (1:04:06) We're gonna have to have words later.

Scott Benner (1:04:07) Hold on a second. (1:04:08) Do you have low iron? (1:04:09) Wait a minute. (1:04:09) This could be a medical thing.

Trey (1:04:11) No. (1:04:11) I just like it. (1:04:12) It tastes good.

Scott Benner (1:04:13) Okay. (1:04:13) Hold on a second. (1:04:14) First of all, now you're gonna get stuck seeing a mental health counselor. (1:04:17) I hope you're happy you opened your mouth. (1:04:18) No.

Scott Benner (1:04:19) What does it mean when a kid eats tinfoil? (1:04:26) Get ready for this. (1:04:27) Trey, you're not gonna like this. (1:04:29) There's a medical word for it. (1:04:30) It's called pica.

Stephanie (1:04:32) It is pica.

Scott Benner (1:04:33) Yeah. (1:04:33) Toddlers, with new nutrient nutrient nutrition deficiency, iron, or zinc, sensory behavioral reasons. (1:04:42) Some kids like the crinkle, the shine, or the feel. (1:04:45) It's more common in kids with autism, ADHD, developmental delays, or high stress anxiety.

Stephanie (1:04:50) I think

Trey (1:04:50) I have ADHD. (1:04:51) I probably do. (1:04:52) I don't know.

Scott Benner (1:04:52) Okay. (1:04:53) Also, is not good for you. (1:04:54) It can choke you, cut make cuts in your mouth, block your GI system. (1:04:58) It could get it could get caught in your pooper. (1:05:00) It could also be vomited back up, cause belly pain, constipation.

Scott Benner (1:05:04) How often do you do this?

Trey (1:05:05) Not often.

Scott Benner (1:05:06) When's the last time you did it?

Trey (1:05:07) Two weeks ago.

Scott Benner (1:05:08) Alright. (1:05:09) Well, now we know what you guys are gonna be talking about when we say goodbye on the podcast.

Stephanie (1:05:13) Right?

Scott Benner (1:05:14) Awesome. (1:05:14) Hey. (1:05:14) Is there anything else you wanna, admit to your mom while we're here? (1:05:18) Seems like this thing is truth serum for you.

Stephanie (1:05:21) Here, I thought he was gonna talk about how he manages his diabetes on the field more, but, you know

Scott Benner (1:05:26) No. (1:05:26) No. (1:05:26) Talk

Stephanie (1:05:26) about aluminum foil instead.

Scott Benner (1:05:28) No. (1:05:29) Aluminum foil and how bad your eggs are. (1:05:31) That's pretty much what I got out of this one. (1:05:33) Is it possible he's anemic?

Stephanie (1:05:35) I don't think so. (1:05:37) Wait. (1:05:37) What what word?

Scott Benner (1:05:38) Anemic. (1:05:39) Like, your iron is low and your blood. (1:05:41) Wouldn't yeah. (1:05:41) You wouldn't know what that is.

Trey (1:05:42) I have a friend with an iron deficiency.

Scott Benner (1:05:44) Yeah. (1:05:45) He might have one too. (1:05:46) That's a great play on this one. (1:05:47) Oh, wow.

Stephanie (1:05:48) There isn't iron in aluminum though.

Scott Benner (1:05:50) Can I tell you something? (1:05:52) No. (1:05:52) No. (1:05:52) But, it doesn't matter. (1:05:54) That's what it says here, that people who find it it's selfie and that have a iron or zinc can have iron or zinc issues.

Scott Benner (1:06:02) I have to say something, Stephanie. (1:06:03) And first of all, Trey, thank you for being honest. (1:06:05) Your mom's gonna be very kind to you when we get done here, and she's gonna try to help you. (1:06:08) Okay? (1:06:09) But, Stephanie, I have to say in, 1,700 episodes, that's gonna stick with me as one of the more out of left field answers somebody's ever given me or things that have said.

Scott Benner (1:06:20) Because I I often say, like, I can't like, it always, like, strikes me what people say, but only some things stick with me. (1:06:26) And you know what they are because I repeat them over and over again. (1:06:29) Like, one girl was diagnosed on a heroin bender. (1:06:32) That really stuck with me. (1:06:34) Like, there's, like Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:06:35) Yeah. (1:06:35) Like and I I maybe heard that means years and years ago. (1:06:38) I once asked a girl what her diet was like, and she said Jack and Coke, but she didn't mean the mixed drinks. (1:06:45) And and that stuck with me. (1:06:48) And this is gonna I feel like I'm gonna remember this.

Scott Benner (1:06:52) Trey, thank you. (1:06:54) I appreciate I appreciate your honesty today.

Stephanie (1:06:57) My children are memorable. (1:06:58) Yes. (1:06:58) Oh

Scott Benner (1:06:58) my god, Stephanie. (1:06:59) This is awesome. (1:07:00) Thank you for doing this with me. (1:07:02) Right now, Stephanie's like

Trey (1:07:03) Runny eggs is the new podcast title.

Scott Benner (1:07:05) Can I just ask him to delete this? (1:07:08) That's what your mom's thinking right now. (1:07:10) And, no, Stephanie, you can't. (1:07:11) I'm sorry. (1:07:11) It's too late.

Stephanie (1:07:11) That's okay.

Scott Benner (1:07:12) You guys are awesome. (1:07:13) Hold on one second for me. (1:07:14) Okay?

Stephanie (1:07:15) Uh-huh.

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Scott Benner (0:00) Hello, friends. (0:01) Welcome to the Juice Box podcast. (0:03) Happy holidays to everyone juggling carbs, cookies, and the chaos of this season.

Brooke (0:22) My name is Brooke. (0:24) I am 29 years old, and I was recently diagnosed with type one, and that was during the pregnancy of my first child.

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Brooke (2:30) My name is Brooke. (2:32) I am 29 years old, and I was recently diagnosed with type one, and that was during the pregnancy of my first child.

Scott Benner (2:40) Your baby gave you diabetes, Brooke?

Brooke (2:42) Yes. (2:43) She did.

Scott Benner (2:45) Is it your first pregnancy? (2:47) Yep. (2:47) Wow. (2:48) How long have you been married with the person that made the baby with you?

Brooke (2:52) We were my husband. (2:54) We were

Scott Benner (2:55) That would have been another way to say it.

Brooke (2:56) Yes. (2:57) We got married last September 2024. (2:59) So we were only married about three, four months before we got pregnant.

Scott Benner (3:04) Okay. (3:04) In, your family line, any other ladies on your side of the family have gestational diabetes ever?

Brooke (3:10) No. (3:11) I don't think so.

Scott Benner (3:12) K. (3:13) Are there autoimmune issues, with your mom, your dad, your grandfather, your uncles?

Brooke (3:19) This is kinda distant, but my great grandmother had Crohn's disease. (3:23) So that that's the only thing.

Scott Benner (3:25) Well, now we can stop blaming the baby and start blaming her.

Brooke (3:28) Yeah. (3:29) Great grandma.

Scott Benner (3:29) Yeah. (3:30) Great great you probably don't even know her. (3:31) Right?

Brooke (3:32) I did. (3:33) Actually, she lived until she was in her nineties. (3:36) So she lived until I was 19.

Scott Benner (3:37) Woah. (3:38) I saw Yeah. (3:39) Oh, I no kidding. (3:40) I saw Dick Van Dyke telling a story the other day about his son, and his son is 78. (3:47) Woah.

Scott Benner (3:47) And he joked and he said, I am old enough to be Joe Biden's father. (3:51) And I was like, that's insane. (3:53) So he has two living sons in his in their seventies, and he's about to turn a 100.

Brooke (3:57) Oh, my gosh. (3:58) That's crazy.

Scott Benner (3:59) Isn't that really I mean, awesome, though. (4:00) Well, I mean, for him, not for us. (4:02) I'm not I'm not gonna live that long.

Brooke (4:04) Yeah.

Scott Benner (4:04) I know I'm not. (4:05) I know you people are gonna kill me with the stress you give me. (4:08) Sorry. (4:09) No. (4:09) It's not your fault, but it is.

Scott Benner (4:11) You get married, get pregnant pretty quickly. (4:14) I'm just gonna ask, did you do it on purpose?

Brooke (4:16) We did. (4:17) Yes. (4:17) Awesome.

Scott Benner (4:17) Good for you. (4:18) And then the baby starts to, percolate, and then what happens?

Brooke (4:23) So nothing really showed signs until my third trimester. (4:27) So, you know, in pregnancy, they do the glucose testing right around your third trimester. (4:33) And at that time, I got my a one c checked. (4:36) I was actually going to have a home birth, so I was doing things a little differently. (4:41) And my midwife decided to just check my a one c because we thought I was low risk, no reason to believe that I was not healthy.

Brooke (4:49) Got my a one c checked, and a week later, it came back 8.1. (4:54) And this was about, like, twenty nine weeks pregnant, so I was pretty far in. (4:58) And I would say the only symptoms that I had were the excessive peeing and really thirsty, but that's normal things in pregnancy, so I didn't think anything of it. (5:10) Checking my a one c, it was 8.1. (5:12) And she said, okay.

Brooke (5:14) So this basically means that you have uncontrolled diabetes. (5:18) You're high risk now, so you're gonna have to switch to a regular OB, and then things just went from there. (5:23) So it was very far along in the pregnancy that I found out.

Scott Benner (5:27) Going back over those first six months, hindsight, the peeing and the thirst, how long was it going on?

Brooke (5:35) Only, like, two weeks. (5:36) It was really, like, maybe around twenty six weeks of pregnancy. (5:40) So I really didn't have any symptoms. (5:43) The only other thing that might be kinda odd is I didn't gain a whole lot of weight. (5:48) I was pretty sick my first trimester, so had the whole morning sickness thing and was throwing up for, like, two months straight.

Brooke (5:56) And so I actually lost 10 pounds. (5:58) And then I gradually gained a little bit during the second trimester, and then it kinda just stopped. (6:05) So I know that a lot of times when people get diagnosed, they lose weight. (6:08) So kinda weird because I was growing a baby, but then I wasn't really gaining weight. (6:12) So that might have been another thing, but that was really it.

Scott Benner (6:15) So what what do you theorize here? (6:16) Do you think that, like, where most people would say, oh, you have gestational diabetes. (6:20) Do you think you were just became type one during the pregnancy?

Brooke (6:24) Yeah. (6:25) I don't even think it was gestational. (6:27) Yeah. (6:27) From what I'm trying to put together in my head because it's still very confusing for me, but I guess I was maybe genetically predisposed and then the pregnancy just triggered the autoimmune response that started type one. (6:40) So I think it's just been type one this whole time.

Scott Benner (6:43) A little baby isn't there like a little virus just Basically. (6:46) Yeah. (6:47) Trust me. (6:47) When do you try to raise it? (6:48) They are viruses.

Brooke (6:50) Oh, no.

Scott Benner (6:52) Wait till it yells at you one day. (6:54) Oh, my god. (6:55) What a moment.

Brooke (6:55) Yep. (6:56) You're

Scott Benner (6:56) you're like, I didn't have to do this. (6:58) You're welcome.

Brooke (6:59) I know. (7:00) Thanks, baby.

Scott Benner (7:02) At some point, I believe every child in the world says, I didn't ask to be born. (7:07) That's a Well that's a nice moment for you. (7:09) Yep. (7:10) I can give you the top 10 right now, Brooke, so you can gird your loins and get ready for it if you want.

Brooke (7:15) Oh, yeah. (7:15) I got a lot of preparing to do.

Scott Benner (7:17) I've been listening to somebody the other day talk about being a parent, and they were just advocating for it just, like, wonderfully, like, you know, about all the good it brings. (7:25) But they also highlighted how the people describe their saddest years of their life between 25 and 45. (7:33) And then somebody else said, well, that isn't that the time when you're raising children? (7:36) And he was like, well, yeah. (7:38) You know?

Scott Benner (7:38) And then the guy, like, kind of begrudgingly says there is a study that says that people who don't have children report being happier.

Brooke (7:44) Oh, no. (7:46) I mean, it's a huge transition. (7:48) Like, everything just think about back to the days when my husband and I could just leave the house and go to a brewery and not worry about anything and everything's different, but Yeah. (7:57) Everything's different for the better.

Scott Benner (7:59) Yeah. (7:59) Yeah. (7:59) You you keep telling yourself that. (8:01) Yeah. (8:02) It was it a doula, by the way, or a midwife?

Scott Benner (8:03) Or are they the same wife. (8:05) Are they not the same thing?

Brooke (8:06) No. (8:07) So a midwife is essentially the same thing as a OB. (8:10) A doula is just emotional support. (8:12) So the doula wouldn't actually deliver the baby. (8:15) They would just kinda be there to help support you, and then the midwife would actually deliver the baby.

Scott Benner (8:20) So you could have both?

Brooke (8:22) Yes.

Scott Benner (8:23) Yeah. (8:23) So you have the midwife and then, like, some hippie girl that talks to you while you're doing your thing.

Brooke (8:26) Exactly. (8:27) Yeah. (8:27) For which I ended up hiring a doula once I switched to the hospital, and she actually was very helpful. (8:33) And she held my hand when I pushed and all the stuff, so she was very helpful.

Scott Benner (8:38) Did she bring gems or stones to hold on your belly by any chance?

Brooke (8:41) She brought essential oils, which I thought were great.

Scott Benner (8:45) I like you, Brooke. (8:46) Yeah. (8:47) I'm a little hippie. (8:47) Yeah. (8:48) Yeah.

Scott Benner (8:48) I was gonna say I'm hearing it now. (8:50) The husband, he not qualified to hold your hand during the birth?

Brooke (8:54) Well, he held one hand and then she held the other. (8:57) And then well, not to get sad, but we had a NICU baby. (9:02) So he had to go with her to the NICU. (9:05) And then while I was being stitched up, my doula stayed with me. (9:08) So it's kinda nice to have two people there.

Scott Benner (9:10) Well, stitched up, did they give you an episiotomy or or a c section?

Brooke (9:14) I delivered vaginally, but a lot of the times you tear, which I guess I tore.

Speaker 3 (9:19) So

Scott Benner (9:19) I wish you wouldn't have said that word out loud. (9:21) But Yeah.

Brooke (9:22) Every woman goes through it, so they know what I'm talking about.

Scott Benner (9:25) Listen. (9:25) I know. (9:26) I was there when a couple of them happened.

Brooke (9:28) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (9:28) Yeah. (9:29) But not the point. (9:30) Point is, I just got that, like, horrible, like, thing up my spine. (9:33) I was like,

Brooke (9:34) I know. (9:35) I can't

Scott Benner (9:35) get it. (9:35) It didn't happen to me, and it couldn't happen to me, and I'm still freaked out by it.

Brooke (9:39) Yeah. (9:40) Yeah. (9:40) I can't believe it happened to me.

Scott Benner (9:42) Well, so the baby needed to go to the NICU because it was underweight, overweight? (9:46) Like, what was the issue?

Brooke (9:48) She was born at thirty three weeks. (9:50) If they're born before thirty four weeks, they require NICU stay. (9:55) And so she I guess, before thirty four weeks, their lungs aren't fully developed. (10:00) So she had to go to the NICU to get on breathing support and then feeding tube and all the stuff.

Scott Benner (10:06) Oh, that sounds scary.

Brooke (10:06) It was tough. (10:07) Yeah.

Scott Benner (10:08) Yeah. (10:08) Were you able to see her as much as you wanted or not particularly?

Brooke (10:12) I guess right away, not really because I was, you know, getting stitched up and I had to stay in the hospital for a few days. (10:20) But then after that, I could go see her as much as I wanted to. (10:22) So she stayed in for three weeks and I was pretty much there every day all day.

Scott Benner (10:27) Did your husband make that terrible joke about throwing in an extra stitch?

Brooke (10:30) No. (10:31) Thankfully.

Scott Benner (10:33) It's like an old seventies joke. (10:34) Oh. (10:35) I'm only aware of because I I'm old. (10:38) Can you imagine if that at all just happened? (10:40) They were whisking your baby away to the to the NICU.

Scott Benner (10:43) They're like, well, we're gonna have to do some stitches now. (10:45) And you just heard him going out the door and yelling, throw in an extra one. (10:48) You'd be like, unbelievable.

Brooke (10:50) I'd be so mad

Scott Benner (10:51) at him. (10:52) Oh, god. (10:52) The doula would throw her essential oils right at him.

Brooke (10:54) Oh, yes.

Scott Benner (10:55) Yes. (10:55) Inner crystals. (10:56) Inner crystals? (10:57) Do you have essential oils in the house now, like, with one of those vaporizer things?

Brooke (11:02) I don't want the vaporizer, but I've always kinda had essential oils, you

Scott Benner (11:06) know Okay.

Brooke (11:07) For different things.

Scott Benner (11:07) Alright. (11:08) I I there's a candle in my bathroom right now. (11:10) It smells awesome. (11:12) I said to my wife, I like, why does the bathroom smell so good? (11:14) She goes, there's a Christmas candle in there.

Scott Benner (11:16) And I was like, oh.

Brooke (11:17) Christmas candle. (11:18) Fantastic. (11:18) Is it cookie scented?

Scott Benner (11:20) I don't know. (11:21) All I know is these those are things I would not own if it wasn't for Kelly. (11:24) So it is nice. (11:25) Would I maybe if Kelly disappeared, do you think I'd go like, let me get a candle for the bathroom at Christmas? (11:30) Maybe I would.

Scott Benner (11:31) Who knows?

Brooke (11:31) Maybe you would. (11:32) Now that you know, it helps. (11:33) Yeah.

Scott Benner (11:33) It depends on how bored I am. (11:35) Talk to me about those months. (11:37) Right? (11:37) Like, you

Speaker 3 (11:38) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (11:38) You have this you know, you're thank God, like, somebody checks your blood sugar. (11:43) Right?

Brooke (11:43) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (11:43) And transition over to a hospital care. (11:46) And then I wanna I wanna hear about that step by step. (11:49) You get to the hospital, what changes, and what are those next couple months like before before the baby arrives?

Brooke (11:55) So I switched to a regular OB. (11:58) And if you're a high risk pregnancy, you have to work with maternal fetal medicine. (12:02) And they have a whole diabetes team. (12:05) So I switched to their care, and I start working with the diabetes educators. (12:11) And they were super helpful.

Brooke (12:13) They set me up with a CGM. (12:15) They explained insulin. (12:17) They checked my blood sugar while I was there. (12:19) I was I think it was, like, 300 that day. (12:22) So they were like, these are the things that you're gonna have to do to manage this for the rest of pregnancy.

Brooke (12:29) And I was very in denial. (12:31) I thought, like, there's no way this isn't just gestational or maybe it's just type two and it's gonna go away. (12:38) Like, I didn't know that type one was really a factor at this point.

Scott Benner (12:42) Okay.

Brooke (12:42) And I didn't really understand the difference between type one and type two. (12:45) I the only thing that I understood was that, well, I thought type one only happened in childhood, teenage years, and I didn't really realize that it could happen at any point. (12:56) And it also meant that you had to have insulin. (12:59) So I didn't really understand a lot of it. (13:01) So I was like, okay.

Brooke (13:03) Well, this I'm gonna, you know, help this with diet and lifestyle. (13:07) Like, I'm gonna get my blood sugars under control. (13:09) I'm not gonna have to go on in with insulin. (13:12) I think it was, like, two weeks went by before I actually started the insulin, and I got my blood sugars down to, like, the low one hundreds just by tuning in my diet. (13:22) So at that point, the only thing that I couldn't really fix was my fasting numbers.

Brooke (13:27) In pregnancy, they want it to be under 95 when you wake up, and I was like one ten, one twenty. (13:34) So I did have to go on insulin. (13:36) They set me up with a long lasting and a rapid, and that helped me manage it. (13:42) And at some point along the lines there, I don't remember exactly when, but they suggested getting the antibodies test to rule out type one. (13:51) Mhmm.

Brooke (13:52) I guess is there three different antibodies you could have?

Scott Benner (13:55) I mean, I think there's five, isn't there? (13:57) Okay. (13:57) Yeah.

Brooke (13:58) I'm not exactly sure, but I think I had three of the antibodies or maybe all. (14:02) So they were like, yeah. (14:03) This is probably type one. (14:05) They kinda explained to me, like, after pregnancy, you're gonna have to switch to an endocrinologist, and this is gonna be a lifelong thing for you. (14:12) So I still was kind of in denial that that was true.

Brooke (14:15) I was just like, there's no way this happened to me. (14:17) Like, it's gestational. (14:19) It's gonna go away. (14:19) Like, whatever.

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Brooke (16:54) Because I didn't understand type one, I think. (16:57) I just was like, there's no way that this just developed during pregnancy. (17:01) And even the doctors kinda seemed confused about the fact that you can get type one during pregnancy. (17:07) I don't know. (17:08) Have you ever heard of that?

Brooke (17:09) Because they've seemed like they've never had anyone develop type one during pregnancy.

Scott Benner (17:14) I mean, just because they haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. (17:16) Yeah. (17:17) Also, five antibodies associated with type one diabetes, GAD 65, IA two, that's isolate antigen two antibodies, IAA insulin auto antibodies, ZNT eight zinc transporter eight antibodies, and ICA isolate cell cytoplasmic antibodies. (17:37) You one positive antibody can in, indicate an autoimmune activity. (17:42) Two or more consider strong evidence for type one diabetes or a very high risk if not diagnosed.

Scott Benner (17:47) Kids with multiple antibodies almost have a hundred percent lifetime risk of developing type one.

Brooke (17:53) Okay.

Scott Benner (17:54) So

Brooke (17:54) Yeah. (17:54) I'm pretty sure I had three. (17:56) So I guess I'm in the boat of type one.

Scott Benner (17:59) You also could have had them for, you know, for a long time.

Brooke (18:03) Yeah. (18:03) And that's what I still don't really understand. (18:05) If I had them for a long time, I don't understand why I didn't have symptoms until

Scott Benner (18:10) Because you didn't have diabetes yet. (18:12) You just had the the antibodies are just there. (18:14) So, like, you know, I mean, do you remember being sick before pregnancy, a virus or, you know, a a kind of a prolonged illness, anything that might have taxed your your immune system?

Brooke (18:26) The only thing that I dealt with was, kind of TMI, but I had abnormal pap test results. (18:33) So I had abnormal cells on my cervix that lasted about six to seven years. (18:39) And they said that typically what I had would clear itself within, like, a year or two, and my body would could not clear whatever this was. (18:49) And so there was an indicator that I had a weak immune system because I just couldn't clear it on my own. (18:56) So that would be the only thing.

Brooke (18:57) But aside from that, I felt extremely healthy prior to pregnancy. (19:01) So it was definitely a shock.

Scott Benner (19:04) Yeah. (19:04) So, I mean, I'm picking around a little bit here and asking our overlords. (19:09) Obviously, pregnancy doesn't create type one diabetes, but it changes the immune system, hormones, and some resistance in ways that can maybe unmask or accelerate their progression if you already have antibodies. (19:19) Mhmm. (19:19) Like, so you know, I mean, just something that shifts your immune system.

Scott Benner (19:24) The pregnancy could you know, definitely does that. (19:26) Yeah. (19:26) Right? (19:27) You get, a big hormonal insulin resistance, like, twenty to twenty eight weeks, like, right in there.

Speaker 3 (19:33) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (19:33) Who knows? (19:33) Like, you know, is it bothering you? (19:35) Is it a feeling like you'd like to have an answer?

Brooke (19:39) I think I'm coming to accept it. (19:41) In the moment, it was it definitely did bother me. (19:44) I just was I just was like, how did this happen to me? (19:46) I don't understand. (19:47) You explaining that helps even more.

Brooke (19:49) Think every day, I'm just kind of accepting it and learning more about it and understanding that this is my new reality.

Scott Benner (19:56) Okay. (19:56) And you are you having a reasonable time with that transition or or is it like, are you seeing a therapist or do you feel like you should? (20:03) Do you need somebody to hold your hand or rub oil on you or something?

Brooke (20:07) Essential oils definitely would help. (20:10) No. (20:10) I I think I'm doing okay. (20:11) I think it helps that I'm in the honeymoon phase because it's kind of like a slow transition. (20:17) Like, I'm it's slowly I need to take more insulin.

Brooke (20:20) And so I have a transition into it, and it's not just like one day all of a sudden, I have to take tons of insulin and my blood sugars are all over the place. (20:28) So I'm managing it pretty well.

Scott Benner (20:30) Good. (20:30) Good. (20:30) Did you I'm sorry. (20:31) You did have to take insulin during the pregnancy. (20:33) Right?

Brooke (20:34) Yes. (20:35) Yeah. (20:35) It was like since I gave birth at thirty three weeks, it was probably only for, like, two weeks that I actually did. (20:41) But yeah.

Scott Benner (20:41) And then do you see an endocrinologist separate for you during that time?

Brooke (20:46) Maternal fetal medicine handled me until I gave birth. (20:51) And then once I gave birth, they passed me off to endo. (20:53) So I had my first endocrinologist appointment, like, three weeks after she was born.

Scott Benner (20:59) The diagnosis isn't really about you while the baby's on board.

Brooke (21:03) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (21:03) It's more about the pregnancy. (21:05) Like, you are the pregnant. (21:06) Yeah. (21:06) Is that right? (21:07) Like, it's more like you are the pregnancy and then, you know, we're we're managing pregnancy.

Scott Benner (21:12) And now that the baby's Mhmm. (21:14) Been extracted, now we go and you get your type one diabetes diagnosis the way everybody else does and you go through the process.

Brooke (21:21) Yeah. (21:21) And I think that might also be why I was a little just, like, in denial because until I saw my endocrinologist, he was like, yes. (21:29) You have type one. (21:31) You're in the honeymoon phase, and he gave me all the facts. (21:34) Whereas before, it was kinda like everything just seems so up in the air.

Brooke (21:37) So once I had the endocrinologist appointment, I was like, okay. (21:39) Like, this is what's going on.

Scott Benner (21:41) Makes a lot of sense, actually. (21:42) But there's some great insight in there. (21:44) I appreciate you sharing it like that.

Speaker 3 (21:46) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (21:46) So okay. (21:47) Baby comes out. (21:48) You go to the endo. (21:49) Now you have type one. (21:50) What's it like being diagnosed with type one diabetes as you're also a newborn parent?

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Brooke (23:02) It's very overwhelming. (23:04) I guess I don't know any different. (23:06) Like, I don't know what it's like to have a baby or be pregnant without this going on. (23:12) So I don't know what it would be like if I didn't have type one. (23:15) So I think every mother goes through a period where they're very overwhelmed and there's a lot going on.

Brooke (23:20) But that's, I mean, the best I can describe it. (23:23) It's very overwhelming. (23:25) And, obviously, you have to always put the baby first. (23:28) And so, you know, her needs come before my needs. (23:32) And there's times where I don't always get to check what my blood sugar is and maybe not take insulin exactly when I wanted to.

Brooke (23:40) And I try to exercise after meals and stuff like that just to keep my blood sugar lower, and there's times I can't do that. (23:47) So I guess you just really have to prioritize the baby. (23:51) And so sometimes the diabetes stuff gets put on the back burner.

Scott Benner (23:54) How long ago was she born?

Brooke (23:56) She is almost three months.

Scott Benner (23:58) So Yeah. (23:59) So wow. (23:59) This is all very fresh.

Speaker 3 (24:01) Yes.

Scott Benner (24:01) How did you find me so quickly?

Brooke (24:03) So my husband, he loves to go on Reddit, and he was, just looking up people with type one and what they had to say on Reddit. (24:12) And a lot of people were talking about doctor Bernstein.

Speaker 3 (24:16) Mhmm.

Brooke (24:16) And he had a Facebook page called type one grit or something like that. (24:21) Yep. (24:22) And so I went and looked on that page, and I hadn't read the book at that point. (24:28) I still I think I only read, like, a chapter or so. (24:30) They want you to have fully read the book and be on his diet to join that page.

Brooke (24:35) So it suggested, like, other resources. (24:37) And I don't remember if they suggested your Facebook page or your podcast, but whichever one I found, and then I found the other. (24:44) And I love listening to podcasts, so I've been listening to your podcast, like, two episodes a day, something like that.

Speaker 3 (24:49) So

Scott Benner (24:50) Okay. (24:50) Well, so hold on. (24:51) That's crazy. (24:52) So you your husband found people talking about a very, like, low carb approach to type one diabetes. (24:58) And you tried to find a Facebook page for that approach, but they wouldn't let you in until you read the book and were on the diet?

Scott Benner (25:07) Yes. (25:08) But then who told you about me? (25:09) Like, were you in a different Facebook page and people were like, oh, you can go talk to Scott's people now. (25:14) Is that how it worked?

Brooke (25:15) I think in the like, you know when it sometimes asks you questions when you join a Facebook page? (25:21) I think in there, it had links to other either Facebook pages or podcasts and resources. (25:26) So I just clicked on one of those links and it took me to wherever.

Scott Benner (25:30) That surprises the hell out of me. (25:32) I and I I just and I just Brooke, if that's the case, I just have to tell you, like, I and I have no malice. (25:37) I don't think the low carb community is a fan of mine. (25:40) So that Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:41) I mean

Scott Benner (25:41) freaks me out. (25:42) I don't know. (25:42) Anyway, what's up, brothers? (25:44) Like, I I think it's cool. (25:45) I think everybody should be sharing everything.

Scott Benner (25:47) Like, I genuinely if you want to, you know, follow the teachings of doctor Bernstein, I think that's completely reasonable. (25:53) And I also think it's completely reasonable if you wanna do a number of other things. (25:57) I like the idea of people having options, seeing what's out there and, you know, and making their own decisions. (26:03) So anyway, if that's the case, I I really appreciate it. (26:07) And we'd, I'll tell you, we have a a number of people who who eat very low carb in my group, and we're happy to let them share as well about how they do things.

Scott Benner (26:15) I only ever kinda step in if people start to proselytize. (26:19) If you come into my into my group and every question that's asked is answered with, like, well, you have to do this or go try this right away. (26:28) Like, I'm like, alright. (26:29) Like, you you're just on a you know, you're just trying to get people from here to wherever it is you think they should be. (26:34) Like, just you can tell them, hey.

Scott Benner (26:35) This works for me and, like, you know, give it a shot. (26:38) But if you start posting 12 times a day about it, like, I feel like maybe there's something going on. (26:43) Yeah. (26:43) Alright. (26:43) Doctor Bernstein, he lived to 90.

Scott Benner (26:46) Yeah. (26:46) He just passed this year. (26:48) Really

Brooke (26:48) Oh, I didn't know

Scott Benner (26:49) that. (26:49) Astounding. (26:49) Yeah. (26:50) He passed away in April. (26:52) But that it's just an astounding life, you know Mhmm.

Scott Benner (26:55) Doing that. (26:56) So okay. (26:56) Alright. (26:57) That's awesome. (26:58) And then you found the podcast.

Scott Benner (26:59) You liked listening to the podcast. (27:01) So what did you get out of it that I mean, because you're on the show pretty quickly.

Brooke (27:05) Yeah. (27:05) I think I reached out, like, I don't know, only a couple weeks after listening to your podcast. (27:10) I mean, I just love hearing other people's stories and relating to what they're going through. (27:16) And I think something that made me wanna reach out was when I was diagnosed, I was, like I said, very confused about the fact that it happened during pregnancy. (27:26) And I did find on Reddit that there's a lot of other people who've had the same experience out there, and I kinda wish that I saw more of that and I heard someone's, like, full story in a podcast or something like that of getting diagnosed during pregnancy.

Brooke (27:42) So kinda made me just wanna share my story. (27:44) I wasn't sure if you had ever had anyone on with a similar story, but I figured I'd like to share.

Speaker 3 (27:51) So

Scott Benner (27:51) Well, I appreciate that. (27:52) And I it doesn't matter if anybody's been on before talking about something similar. (27:56) I I think we need to keep having conversations so people can keep hearing them. (27:59) So Yeah. (28:00) Okay.

Scott Benner (28:01) So you made a point earlier that, like, you work a little bit in denial, then a lot in denial, then, you know, back again. (28:09) Is there something that you can point to that a doctor said to you that actually made you feel like, okay. (28:14) This is actually happening to me. (28:15) Like, I gotta wrap my head around it. (28:17) Was there something valuable that was said to you that helped you with that?

Brooke (28:21) I think my endocrinologist explaining honeymoon because I didn't understand that. (28:26) And leading up to that point, I was not taking a whole lot of insulin, and there was even a couple days in the hospital where I didn't have it. (28:34) Once I started learning more about type one, it's like, you need insulin. (28:38) So I was like, how did how do I have type one and not need insulin? (28:42) So when he started explaining the honeymoon phase and he got my c peptides checked, I think it was.

Brooke (28:48) Mhmm. (28:49) And that confirmed that I was in the honeymoon stage because I still had some insulin being produced by my own body. (28:56) So I think understanding that and how it was a transition into it made sense for what was going on with me.

Scott Benner (29:04) It just really does occur to me that being pregnant and giving birth and being told at the same time, right, like, have type one diabetes and here's all that comes with that. (29:19) You said overwhelming, but, like, you're really, like, underplaying it. (29:23) Right? (29:23) Like, I mean, it wasn't just overwhelming. (29:26) It was probably insane.

Brooke (29:28) Yeah. (29:28) Life changing.

Scott Benner (29:29) Right. (29:30) Right. (29:30) And your husband, this guy, I mean, he's not even qualified to hold your hand correctly. (29:34) So, I mean, how how helpful is he gonna be with this whole thing? (29:37) But, no, seriously, like, you're a new you're fairly newly wed still.

Scott Benner (29:40) Am I right?

Brooke (29:41) Yep.

Scott Benner (29:42) Yeah. (29:42) I mean, so you're newly wed. (29:43) You're newly you know, just went through a pregnancy that didn't go the way you expected. (29:47) You had, some big plans. (29:49) They got kinda, you know, smushed up there at the end.

Scott Benner (29:52) I wonder if you still have a full, like, feeling of the impact of what's happened to you.

Brooke (29:58) Yeah. (29:59) I mean, I don't think I do. (30:00) And my husband love him, but he, I think, is even in more denial than I am. (30:07) I think I've come to kind of accept, like, what's to come, and he's still very optimistic. (30:13) Like, maybe it'll go away.

Brooke (30:15) Like, I think he doesn't have as much education on it that I do at this point. (30:18) I mean, I'm still learning so much, still have so much to learn. (30:22) But

Scott Benner (30:22) Brooke, is it too late to switch to a different boy? (30:24) Like, what? (30:26) Wait. (30:26) What are you telling me? (30:27) You feel he has said to you maybe it'll go away?

Brooke (30:30) I mean, I think he's just very optimistic. (30:32) And I think even if it doesn't go away, he thinks I'll be able to manage it with very low insulin, diet, and stuff like that. (30:39) And I keep saying, no. (30:40) I'm gonna have start taking more insulin. (30:42) I'm gonna have to start taking it with meals and that kind of stuff.

Brooke (30:45) So I think he's just very optimistic.

Scott Benner (30:48) Well, listen. (30:48) I'm gonna take his optimism and and say, I'm happy he's optimistic. (30:53) I'm sad I'm sad that that this is the situation and that it it feels like this because you're making me pause at what might be going through a lot of different people's heads in this situation. (31:04) Like, oh, maybe it'll go away. (31:06) Maybe they'll cure it.

Scott Benner (31:07) I've, you know, I've seen people say, a god's gonna take it from, like, you know, like, I've got all different ideas of people clinging to the idea that I want this to change and go back. (31:17) And you're the one saying, no. (31:18) No. (31:18) This is this is how it's gonna be. (31:20) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (31:21) I think that's healthy, by the way, that you're that you're understanding of the situation.

Speaker 3 (31:26) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (31:26) I do think there are people who don't care for themselves as well because they that feeling of, like, hopefulness can turn into, oh, well, I'll just ignore it because this isn't gonna be my life.

Speaker 3 (31:38) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (31:39) And I I I just think you have a great shot at success when you you face it head on like this.

Speaker 3 (31:43) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (31:43) There are things that can help, you know, like as you as you go along, you'll be able to pay attention to I mean, there's a lot of people right now who, you know, experience insulin resistance, are using a little GLP medications that are bringing their insulin needs down that way, you could absolutely decide that eating, like, a a very low carb diet is for you. (32:03) Mhmm. (32:03) You know, that would keep your insulin needs down. (32:05) There's there's a lot of things you could do, but you're in the infancy of it. (32:09) No pun intended.

Scott Benner (32:10) Know, in the infancy of a lot of things. (32:13) Yep. (32:13) How is the baby, by the way?

Brooke (32:16) She's great. (32:17) You know, after she stayed three weeks in the NICU. (32:20) She had the breathing stuff, like the CPAP machine. (32:24) She had a feeding tube. (32:25) But once we got her home, she's been doing great.

Brooke (32:28) So no concerns with her. (32:29) I know that a lot of times when you have diabetes in the pregnancy, the concerns are that they would be a really big baby to start, which she was born early, so that didn't really happen. (32:41) And then they would have low blood sugar issues, but because she was in the NICU for three weeks, they were checking that constantly, and she didn't have any issues with that. (32:49) So she's great.

Scott Benner (32:51) What was her birth weight?

Brooke (32:53) It was five and a half pounds, basically.

Scott Benner (32:55) Wait. (32:55) There is part of me that really thinks that that's a a helpful indicator that you really just weren't diagnosed with type one while you were fighting. (33:01) Because if you if, you know, if you had gestational the entire time, I imagine her birth weight would have been higher.

Brooke (33:08) Yeah. (33:09) And then I also am not sure, like, since she was born at thirty three weeks, she was five and a half pounds. (33:15) That's big for thirty three weeks. (33:16) Had she gone all the way, I don't know if she would have been a big baby.

Scott Benner (33:21) Fair point. (33:22) I'm glad we've talked about it because I I I'd like to understand that. (33:25) Interesting. (33:26) Has your family extended been valuable for you here? (33:31) Your mother I don't know if your mom and dad are together or alive or whatever, but, like, do you have people that, that can help you and and you can lean on?

Brooke (33:39) Yeah. (33:39) They're all very supportive. (33:41) My mom so my mom's prediabetic, and my grandfather, who was her dad, he has since passed, but he had type two. (33:49) So there's some understanding of diabetes in my family. (33:53) They were so helpful at the end of pregnancy and the beginning of bringing the baby home of cooking us meals.

Brooke (34:00) And I just tell them, like, what I can eat and send them recipes and they cook for us. (34:05) So that was super helpful. (34:06) So, yeah, they've all been very supportive.

Scott Benner (34:09) Very nice. (34:09) Very nice. (34:10) You feel like you're set up well? (34:12) Yeah. (34:12) Yeah.

Scott Benner (34:13) Do you feel like you'll want an insulin pump when the time comes or do you think you're gonna try MDI?

Brooke (34:20) I'm definitely considering it. (34:22) I don't know. (34:23) I think there's positives and negatives. (34:25) I've seen, like, videos of people putting their ins or their pumps in, and I don't know. (34:31) They seem painful, and then sometimes they leak and whatever else.

Brooke (34:34) But then on the other side, giving yourself multiple injections a day is also a pain. (34:39) So I'm kind of considering both. (34:41) So we'll just kinda see what happens.

Scott Benner (34:42) You wait and see. (34:43) Are you wearing a CGM? (34:45) Yes. (34:45) Which one?

Brooke (34:47) I have the Libre.

Scott Benner (34:48) Libre three plus?

Brooke (34:49) Yes.

Scott Benner (34:50) Awesome. (34:50) Very nice. (34:51) What are you seeing on the CGM? (34:53) You know, because right now, you're just taking a basal insulin. (34:56) Is that right?

Brooke (34:58) As of this week, I started adding it back in a little bit of rapid, just a very small amount though.

Scott Benner (35:03) Okay. (35:03) What are you noticing? (35:05) Where does your blood sugar sit stable away from meals? (35:08) And what are you seeing as far as spikes could, go at mealtime?

Brooke (35:14) So I do feel like things have kind of gradually progressed over the last couple months. (35:19) Right when I after I gave birth and I got home and everything, I was pretty much sitting in the nineties, like, low one hundreds, and I was only taking seven units of Lantus before bed. (35:32) And then, interestingly, I saw those numbers start to creep up, especially at night. (35:37) I would get into, like, the one thirties, and it was too high for what I was comfortable with. (35:42) So I reached out to my endo, and I said, hey.

Brooke (35:45) I'm noticing my numbers are creeping up. (35:47) I'm starting to eat foods that I wouldn't spike on before, and I'm starting to spike on now. (35:51) So would you recommend adding back in rapid and upping my lances? (35:56) And he said, no. (35:57) He said, your numbers are fantastic.

Brooke (35:59) In his opinion, he wanted as long as my a one c's under seven. (36:04) For me personally, I would like it to be, like, under 5.5 ideally. (36:09) So I kind of ignored his advice and started adding more Lantus. (36:13) And so now I'm taking eleven units of Lantus before bed, like, two units with a meal if I feel like I need it. (36:20) And so I'm staying pretty stable.

Brooke (36:22) I usually don't go over, like, one forty, one fifty.

Scott Benner (36:24) Where'd you get the nerve to do that?

Brooke (36:27) Your podcast.

Scott Benner (36:28) Oh, sorry. (36:29) Hi, everybody. (36:30) I'm glad for you. (36:32) I think, you know, I I'm I'm gonna try to say this as much as I can. (36:36) I believe that people who have the most success with type one diabetes have good tools.

Scott Benner (36:40) They have a good understanding of how insulin works, and they feel empowered to make changes to their settings.

Brooke (36:47) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (36:47) I think that's a big deal. (36:49) Being able to say my needs have changed, and I don't need to stare at it for six months or ask, you know, a committee of people to decide whether or not I should go from, you know, point five to point seven. (37:00) Yeah. (37:00) Oh, that's awesome. (37:01) So you're you're continuing you're not having any lows that that are worrisome?

Brooke (37:06) No. (37:06) We're no lows really at all. (37:08) Occasionally, I'll, like, dip into the high sixties, but it'll come right back and I've haven't had any issues.

Scott Benner (37:15) Does a high 60 feel any certain way to you or no?

Brooke (37:18) Not really. (37:19) No.

Scott Benner (37:19) No. (37:19) You don't feel low No. (37:21) At that number. (37:22) Are you using a meter once in a while to check, make sure that Libre is giving you a good number?

Brooke (37:26) I was at the beginning and I stopped, so I probably should.

Scott Benner (37:29) Yeah. (37:29) Look every once in a while. (37:30) Doesn't hurt anything. (37:32) Especially in the extremes. (37:34) You know what I mean?

Scott Benner (37:34) Like, I'd love to know if a 69 is really 69. (37:37) And Yeah. (37:38) I'd love to know if a, you know, a one eighty is is not two forty, that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (37:42) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (37:43) Yeah. (37:43) I guess what I'm I'm interested in, like, you're so new to this. (37:47) And like you said, it's not even, full on, oh, I got, like, type one and all the insulin and everything's happening right now. (37:54) And you have somebody on your side who you love and you care about who's telling you, like, maybe it'll go away. (37:59) And and, you know, and you're like, no.

Scott Benner (38:01) I don't think so. (38:02) Like and the baby's there and she are you breastfeeding?

Brooke (38:06) Yeah. (38:07) I'm breastfeeding, pumping.

Scott Benner (38:08) And you're breastfeeding, you're pumping and, like, you

Speaker 3 (38:10) work? (38:10) Do

Scott Benner (38:11) you have a job? (38:12) Like, you have to go to work?

Brooke (38:13) I have a very small part time job that I can work from home. (38:16) It's, like, a few hours a week.

Scott Benner (38:17) Okay. (38:18) Alright. (38:18) Well, you don't have to leave the house then, like, go on a schedule. (38:20) That's that's Yeah. (38:21) That's great at least.

Scott Benner (38:22) I'm just like, I'm wondering, like, I mean, it's not what you expected and it's not what you were getting ready for. (38:27) Right? (38:28) So so what is it? (38:30) Like like, when you when you step out of yourself right now and look at this entire situation, how would you explain it to another person as an onlooker? (38:38) Like, what's happening to you right now?

Speaker 3 (38:40) That's a hard question. (38:41) I don't know. (38:42) I it's hard to

Brooke (38:43) take yourself out of the situation. (38:45) But I guess when people ask what's going on, I just say, I got type one when I was pregnant and here we are. (38:53) I mean, I have I'm in the honeymoon phase and it's gradually ramping up. (38:57) Most people don't understand type one diabetes, so I'll explain to them that my pancreas is still producing some insulin, so I don't have to take as much right now. (39:06) But, yeah, we're just taking it day by day.

Scott Benner (39:08) I'll beat them. (39:09) You have such a good attitude.

Brooke (39:10) Thank you.

Scott Benner (39:11) Are you an only child? (39:12) Do you have brothers and sisters?

Brooke (39:14) I'm the middle child. (39:15) I've always been the, I would say, like, optimistic, go with the flow type of person.

Scott Benner (39:20) Well, you really are. (39:21) I mean, jeez, like, go with the flow is is, you know, an understatement here. (39:25) Like, you're not mad? (39:26) You're not scared? (39:28) Are you

Brooke (39:28) I mean, I definitely I definitely have had those emotions. (39:32) But I think when it comes down to it, when you have a baby, it's like, it's about them, and you have to do what you have to do to keep them healthy. (39:40) I've heard you talk a lot about Arden's story and how you just have to do it. (39:43) You don't have a choice. (39:45) And so I just have to put my baby first at this point.

Brooke (39:48) And, you know, obviously, I have to take care of myself too because if I'm not healthy, then she's doesn't have anyone to take care of her. (39:54) But, you you know, as a parent, you gotta do what you gotta do. (39:58) I think it just helps. (40:00) It for me, it helps hearing people's stories, and it helps getting educated. (40:04) And that's why I love listening to podcasts.

Brooke (40:06) Like, I've always been a podcast junkie, and whatever is go I'm going through at that time in my life, I just binge podcasts about. (40:14) And so I'm so glad that I found yours and there's so much content. (40:17) Like, I don't think I'll ever run out of podcasts to listen to, so I'm I'm thankful for that.

Scott Benner (40:22) So two things. (40:22) First of all, would you like to renounce your father and accept me as your father now? (40:27) No? (40:27) Yes? (40:28) It's okay if you don't want to.

Scott Benner (40:29) No. (40:29) You're like, no. (40:30) What the hell kind of I was just kidding. (40:32) You don't have to apologize.

Speaker 3 (40:33) Oh, I know. (40:34) I didn't.

Scott Benner (40:34) Also, I really appreciate you saying what you just said because I just had this conversation last night with somebody who said to me, like, oh, I was somewhere recently and a couple people said to me, like, oh, the you know, the podcast has too much content. (40:48) And I said, those aren't podcast listeners.

Brooke (40:52) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (40:52) And you're making my point here, which is really, really great for me because now I feel like I might have been right about something. (40:58) I think that the podcast attracts a couple of different people. (41:02) I think it attracts people who are been thrown into diabetes or struggling, and they've heard that it could be helpful to them. (41:09) And they come and they find it, and I think they extract from it what they need to go live a better life, you know, and or to get enough tools for building blocks for themselves. (41:19) I don't think you I don't imagine that most people, like, just listen to what I say and just go do it.

Scott Benner (41:23) Like, I think they apply it to their own lives and their own thinking and find a blend that works for them. (41:29) I think then when those people are done and their a one c's and their stability is where they kinda want it to be and their understanding and their comfortability is where they want it to be, I think they kinda go away. (41:38) Right? (41:38) Like, I think they found a thing and it helped them, and now they don't need it anymore. (41:43) And then I think there are other people who show up for all kinds of different reasons who are actually podcast listeners and want to listen to these conversations.

Scott Benner (41:52) And those people, they want something every day, and they want it to be an hour or an hour and a half long.

Speaker 3 (41:59) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (41:59) Like, they're not looking for fifteen minutes. (42:01) Give me something. (42:02) Let me get out of here. (42:03) There are people who like podcasts Mhmm. (42:06) And you're one of those people.

Brooke (42:07) Yeah. (42:08) I find myself if I have a podcast, I really like getting angry if there's an episode that's only fifteen minutes because, like, what can you say in fifteen minutes? (42:16) There's so much to say, and I just love I love the long podcast.

Scott Benner (42:20) Thank you. (42:21) I do too. (42:22) I prefer by the way, I don't even make podcasts at the length that I prefer them at. (42:26) I prefer them around two and a half hours. (42:28) But

Brooke (42:29) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (42:29) When I'm listening myself, there have been times where people have said things like, I this woman said something online the other day that really, like I was like, ugh. (42:37) Like, it hit me right in my soul. (42:39) She goes, yeah. (42:39) I tried the podcast. (42:40) Too much chitchat, she said.

Scott Benner (42:43) Oh. (42:43) And I was like, oh, that's that's the part I'm good at. (42:47) Yeah. (42:48) Oh, no. (42:49) Too much of the thing that I think I'm good at.

Scott Benner (42:51) I was like, oh, no. (42:52) No. (42:52) So but it's easy for a moment to be like, oh, she doesn't like me, but I don't think she doesn't like me. (42:57) She doesn't like podcasting. (42:59) Yeah.

Scott Benner (42:59) An easy thing to lose sight of. (43:01) So when I was explaining to the person about all this, they were like, you know, the person said they would like shorter episodes and more stuff about management and more stuff with doctors and more stuff with that. (43:10) I said, that's the stuff that doesn't do as well.

Brooke (43:13) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (43:14) Like, not by a lot. (43:15) Like, don't get me wrong. (43:16) But, like, if I do where there are a couple of things that happen. (43:20) If I do too much management stuff, the management stuff does worse by, like, 10%. (43:25) And even the stuff that people love, like, bolus four and, like Mhmm.

Scott Benner (43:29) Like, the pro tip stuff, like, that's listened to by a lot of people. (43:33) Like, don't get me wrong, but not as many people would wanna listen to you and I chitchat about your pregnancy and your life with diabetes. (43:39) Mhmm. (43:40) Those episodes do better. (43:42) And people want it every day.

Speaker 3 (43:44) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (43:45) They they're not looking for once a week. (43:47) They're not looking for, you know, every other, you know, Wednesday and Friday, like, kind of thing. (43:52) Like, people who want podcasts, they want them all the time. (43:55) And if they wake up on Monday or what again, what was yesterday? (43:59) Blind electrician.

Scott Benner (44:00) If you wake up tomorrow, you know, and you go blind electrician, I don't care. (44:04) Well, maybe you cared about the one from the day before or the five that were out the week before or the five that are coming in the next five days. (44:11) Like, there's always going to be content for you. (44:14) Like, I think in a world, that is built the way ours is now, if you're putting something out once a week or once a month, you barely have a hobby at that point.

Brooke (44:23) Yeah.

Scott Benner (44:24) You are not creating content. (44:25) That's for certain. (44:26) And for the people who love it, like you, it's exactly what they want.

Brooke (44:31) Yeah. (44:31) I don't know what it is. (44:32) It's like, for me, it's kind of comforting having like chitchat in the background. (44:36) I don't know. (44:36) Especially being mostly a stay at home mom, you're just by yourself all day with a little baby.

Brooke (44:41) So having just people talking in the background and

Scott Benner (44:45) Yeah.

Brooke (44:45) I don't know. (44:46) Hearing hearing similar stories, I I really love it.

Scott Benner (44:48) I I I will tell you that I just I grew up with talk radio and Mhmm. (44:54) I find it incredibly valuable. (44:56) I love having voices like, you know, I love hearing people stories who I've never met before and I'll never meet. (45:03) I like to hear people's perspectives. (45:05) I like that there's somebody leading the conversation who I'm comfortable with, you know, who I find to be reasonable.

Scott Benner (45:13) I don't have to always agree with that person. (45:15) I as a matter of fact, I've you know, I don't. (45:18) But and but still, like, there's a core about them that works for me. (45:23) Does that make sense? (45:24) Yeah.

Brooke (45:24) Yeah. (45:25) No. (45:25) I agree completely.

Scott Benner (45:27) Yeah. (45:27) So, like, I I'm I'm sure I say something. (45:29) I'm sure there are people who absolutely love this podcast. (45:30) So once in while, like, what did that moron just say? (45:33) And, like, because I do the same thing when I'm listening to stuff that I enjoy that has nothing to do with diabetes or me and, you know, like, I'll sit in there and, like, nodding along, like, you know, like, doing the dishes.

Scott Benner (45:44) You're like, yeah. (45:45) I agree with that. (45:45) That makes sense. (45:46) And they say something like, where'd you come up with that, you moron? (45:48) And, like, you know, like, it's it's I don't know.

Scott Benner (45:51) I just think it's a I think it's an awesome way to bring people together.

Brooke (45:54) Definitely. (45:55) I agree.

Scott Benner (45:56) Thank you. (45:56) Well, thank you very much. (45:58) And all of you other podcast listeners out there, I appreciate you. (46:00) And by the way, those of you who are just here for whatever, like, you need out of it, like, I don't begrudge it at all. (46:06) Like, I think I think it's awesome that we built something that also does something else.

Scott Benner (46:10) You know? (46:11) And so For sure. (46:12) Do you do it for that? (46:13) Like, I mean, have you even needed to really dive into pro tips yet, or you do you try bold beginnings? (46:18) Have you tried any of that management stuff?

Brooke (46:20) I've tried a little bit of each. (46:22) Think I can't remember exactly what episodes I listened to, but I definitely listened to some of the bold beginnings, some of the pro tips, and some of your bolus episodes. (46:30) So I've heard bits and pieces.

Scott Benner (46:32) So you're grabbing what you need and feeling like, to get yourself feeling like you're prepared. (46:38) Is that right?

Brooke (46:38) Yeah. (46:39) Like, for instance, I think it was maybe in the bold beginnings, there was like a episode about honeymoon. (46:44) So I've listened to that, and then an episode about insulin, and I listened to that. (46:48) And I kinda just listened to what I need. (46:51) I also kinda cherry pick the talking episodes to ones that I think will be more similar to my experience.

Scott Benner (46:58) Of course.

Brooke (46:58) And I just kinda start with those.

Scott Benner (46:59) That's obvious. (47:00) And you've been at it such a short amount of time. (47:02) Like, you're one of those people that if I don't piss you off, you could be listening to this show for ten years.

Brooke (47:07) Yeah. (47:07) I'm sure I will because there's been podcasts that I've listened to for probably ten years now.

Scott Benner (47:11) So Me too. (47:12) Yeah. (47:12) There's stuff I've I've listened to for so long that I don't even think it's the same thing I started with and I still just I'm just happy to be with the people at that point.

Brooke (47:20) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (47:20) Yeah. (47:20) No. (47:21) That's awesome. (47:22) It's not YouTube. (47:24) Right?

Scott Benner (47:24) Like, people are like, put your podcast on YouTube. (47:26) I'm like, nah. (47:27) It's not the same thing. (47:28) Like, I know you think it is, but it's not. (47:30) Like, that's not the same.

Scott Benner (47:32) Like, YouTube viewers are not podcast listeners.

Brooke (47:35) Yeah. (47:35) And I feel like it's more approachable for a podcast because I can put it I don't have to watch it. (47:40) I can put it on in the car. (47:41) I can put it on when I'm in the shower. (47:43) Like, whatever I'm doing, just have that background noise versus having to watch something.

Scott Benner (47:48) You know, it's funny too. (47:49) Somebody said to me the other day, I did an interview with somebody and they were like, can I get a screen grab of you and I talking? (47:55) And I was like, I don't do video. (47:57) I don't have any of that. (47:58) And they said, oh, I just wanted, you know, a picture of you and me for the like, some social media and I was doing it.

Scott Benner (48:05) I was like, yeah. (48:05) I'm like, I'm not the face of the podcast. (48:07) Like, people don't care what I look like.

Brooke (48:09) Yeah. (48:09) I don't even think I knew what you looked like.

Scott Benner (48:11) Yeah. (48:11) That's not important. (48:13) It it really isn't. (48:14) Mhmm. (48:14) I was listening to the Howard Stern show for six years when I realized that Robin was black.

Scott Benner (48:18) I had no idea. (48:20) Like like and that's not even like, probably, like, you you there might even be a thing you have context for. (48:24) But, like, I I was Yeah. (48:25) I was listening to a group of people talk for, like, six years. (48:27) And one day, I was like, what what did they just say?

Scott Benner (48:29) I was like, oh, I I didn't know that. (48:31) I loved how unimportant it was. (48:34) Yeah. (48:34) She's a voice with thoughts and she's consistent and like her, not like her, be angry with her sometimes, enjoy what she says sometimes. (48:43) She was just a a constant.

Scott Benner (48:45) Like, it's a I don't know. (48:47) I I I just think it's wonderful. (48:48) It's popular. (48:49) Like, that that's the other thing is that the last thing I said to the person was like, they're like, well, there's, you know, there's other podcasts and they do more stuff with doctors. (48:56) And I was like, yeah, boring.

Scott Benner (48:57) Nobody cares.

Brooke (48:58) Yeah. (48:59) There's a lot of podcasts out there. (49:00) There's a lot I mean, you can find whatever you're looking for pretty much. (49:03) So Yeah. (49:04) They're out there if you want them.

Scott Benner (49:05) That's it. (49:06) Here I am. (49:07) Through Reddit because your so your husband listens oh my god. (49:12) You've had such a crazy route to getting to where you are right now. (49:17) Really nice.

Scott Benner (49:19) Like, it's interesting. (49:20) I am worried about the boy though. (49:22) Like, is he do you think he's in denial?

Brooke (49:26) I think he's a little bit in denial, but I more so think he just he I I think it's the optimism. (49:32) Like, I think he thinks we're gonna manage this easy. (49:36) Like, we'll stay low carb. (49:39) You won't have to go on the pump. (49:40) Like, I think he just thinks we're gonna handle it very simplified, and I just I'm like, it's not gonna be that easy.

Brooke (49:47) There's gonna be ups and downs. (49:48) There's gonna be things that change throughout. (49:50) So I think he just is not ready for the ride that we're gonna be on.

Scott Benner (49:55) Unfair question because you haven't been married that long, so you might not have the answer. (49:59) But do you think he believes that, or do you think that he thinks this is him pumping you up or helping you stay positive or whatever?

Brooke (50:08) I think he believes it. (50:10) Oh. (50:10) Because I I'll I'll come back and say, nope. (50:13) There's gonna be a day that I have to take more insulin. (50:16) It's not gonna be so easy.

Brooke (50:17) And, I mean, I think I don't know. (50:20) He'll he'll see. (50:21) He'll figure it out.

Scott Benner (50:22) You're like, I'll show him. (50:23) Don't worry.

Brooke (50:24) Yeah. (50:24) He's gonna have to learn because, I mean, he he'll see my numbers and when it's like, okay. (50:28) I'm spiking. (50:29) All I ate was an egg, then, yeah, I have to take insulin.

Scott Benner (50:33) I just don't want and I'm not saying this is your situation. (50:37) Maybe it is exactly as you're as you're saying. (50:40) But there are people who really believe that stuff, who are running around, like, limiting their insulin and doing like, they're not being safe.

Speaker 3 (50:47) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (50:47) And I don't think you would do that. (50:49) I'm not saying that. (50:50) But I'm trying to figure out, where does that come from? (50:53) Like, from this, like, feel is he very religious?

Brooke (50:56) We recently got, into religion and started going to the church, so I don't really think it's that.

Scott Benner (51:02) Okay.

Brooke (51:02) To be honest, we're both a little skeptical about modern medicine, hence why we wanna do the home birth and everything. (51:09) So I think he just doesn't always believe things off the bat. (51:14) He has to see it for himself and go through it to understand because it there's so much misinformation out there.

Scott Benner (51:22) There is. (51:22) But but there's also a lot of good information. (51:24) So Yeah. (51:25) How how old is he?

Brooke (51:26) 31.

Scott Benner (51:27) Okay. (51:29) And do you guys grow up in a small town? (51:31) Yes. (51:32) Mhmm. (51:33) Okay.

Scott Benner (51:34) Anybody go to college?

Brooke (51:36) I went to college. (51:37) He did not.

Scott Benner (51:38) He did not. (51:38) What what'd you go for?

Brooke (51:40) I was a dance major.

Scott Benner (51:41) Oh, you can go to college for that?

Speaker 3 (51:44) You can. (51:44) And I did.

Scott Benner (51:45) Oh, I would have gone to college if I'd known that.

Brooke (51:47) Yeah. (51:47) It was great. (51:48) I loved it.

Scott Benner (51:49) I'm a terrible dancer. (51:50) But I I mean, this is where I could have thrived.

Brooke (51:53) Yeah. (51:53) Maybe. (51:53) I I think anyone can be a dance major.

Scott Benner (51:55) Really? (51:56) Like, you you don't think that when I dance, look ridiculous and there's no way to fix that?

Brooke (52:01) Well, it's funny. (52:03) I don't know. (52:04) The dance community gets very, very hippie as well sometimes, and it's like, anything can be art, anything can be dance.

Scott Benner (52:11) Alright. (52:12) Well, you're gonna be a dancer. (52:13) If you're gonna be that nice, then I agree. (52:15) But I don't I don't agree on on principle. (52:17) Go back to a second to there's a lot of misinformation.

Scott Benner (52:21) Type one diabetes has been around forever. (52:24) People who believe that you you see the ancient Egyptians talking about it, they call it the great drain. (52:30) They thought you urinated yourself to death. (52:32) Right?

Brooke (52:33) Okay.

Scott Benner (52:34) Insulin was, made in the in the twenties, saved people's lives, does every day. (52:41) Is there something about that that he thinks is wrong?

Brooke (52:46) No. (52:46) I I didn't mean that misinformation is specifically about diabetes, just like out there in the world. (52:51) Like, you go on Facebook and I just saw, like, an I this is crazy. (52:56) I just saw an AI video of RFK saying that there is some cactus blend that could cure diabetes. (53:05) And I thought it was weird, I googled it and it was yes.

Brooke (53:09) This was an AI video. (53:10) So there's so much crazy stuff out there that it's hard to believe things when you see them first.

Scott Benner (53:16) So people are just trying to get clicks.

Brooke (53:18) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (53:19) Right. (53:19) Right. (53:20) And so I think that's why it's important to find a community of people that you can believe in at some point and just kinda go off of that. (53:28) Yeah. (53:29) And you've done that already, so you you'll be okay.

Scott Benner (53:31) But he's not he hasn't done that yet.

Brooke (53:34) No. (53:34) Other than his Reddit searches, which you can find anything that you are looking for on Reddit. (53:40) So I do think that at some point, will suggest him starting to listen to your podcast or things like that just so he can see because he's never been around anyone who's had diabetes other than me. (53:51) So he has a lot of learning to do.

Scott Benner (53:52) Give him the bull beginning series. (53:54) Like, let him listen to that. (53:55) Yeah. (53:55) You know? (53:56) Because, like, look, I don't not get the duality of a person who makes content saying, like, oh, there's content out there and it's bull There's people listening right now who like, Scott, I've heard you'd be wrong about stuff.

Scott Benner (54:05) Is your content bull Like, you know what I mean? (54:06) Like that

Speaker 3 (54:07) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (54:07) I I get that vibe. (54:09) But, like, there's just some basic truths about type one diabetes. (54:12) Right? (54:12) You have type one diabetes. (54:14) You need man made insulin.

Brooke (54:15) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (54:15) You will die without it. (54:17) Maybe you'll need less while you're in a honeymoon phase. (54:20) And I'll tell you, there's an episode of a guy who, was type one for many years, using a lot of insulin, but then they put him on a weight loss medication, Mounjaro, or Zepbound. (54:31) I forget. (54:31) It's the same thing.

Scott Benner (54:32) And he actually came off his insulin. (54:35) And as of the time I interviewed him, he wasn't back on it yet, but he also fully expected that he would be at some point.

Brooke (54:42) Yeah.

Scott Benner (54:42) And right. (54:43) And, like so, like like, if I said to you right now, like, you could maybe stretch out your honeymoon with some GLP, I don't think that's maybe a crazy thing to say because you can you could maybe lighten the load and and and take a little bit of the burden off your beta cells right now and maybe make this time go a little longer for you.

Speaker 3 (55:00) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (55:01) And maybe not. (55:02) Like, I have no idea. (55:03) You might shoot that GLP and nothing happens to your insulin needs. (55:06) Yeah. (55:06) I have absolutely no idea, but GLPs don't cure type one diabetes.

Scott Benner (55:10) Yeah. (55:10) Yeah. (55:10) It doesn't make it go away or anything like that. (55:12) You still have it. (55:13) You still need insulin unless your body's making enough in a honeymoon situation that the GLP lifts the need and and allows for what's going on in your beta cells to be enough for you Mhmm.

Scott Benner (55:25) Which is what I think is happening to that guy. (55:27) And and I've had other people on who have, like, told that story too. (55:30) But having said that, not many people, a couple. (55:33) You you know, most people who take a GLP who have type one just experience less of insulin need. (55:40) But Yeah.

Scott Benner (55:40) May maybe by twenty percent or, you know, I've heard some people say by thirty percent. (55:44) I mean, that might be valuable for you to look into.

Brooke (55:46) I think maybe where some of his skepticism comes to is doctor Perdstein, from what we were hearing, people were taking very, very minimal insulin by, I guess, the low carb diet. (55:59) So I guess maybe his thinking is we're gonna find a way that you don't have to take a lot of insulin for the rest of your life.

Scott Benner (56:06) Well, that's very reasonable. (56:08) Like, it it certainly is if you don't tax your, you know a lot of people have success with that. (56:14) Now, by the way, a lot of people, I don't know what that means. (56:16) Mhmm. (56:16) Be it, you know, like, the percentage of people who are doing that, I I don't know what that number is.

Scott Benner (56:20) But also, is that a thing you want to do?

Brooke (56:23) I'd consider it, but I don't know if it would last the rest of my life. (56:27) Are you are you talking about the low carb or

Scott Benner (56:28) I'm I'm talking about what happens seven, eight months from now when that baby turns one and there's a cake. (56:34) Are you gonna want some of it?

Brooke (56:36) I don't know. (56:37) I I think we'll see. (56:38) I mean, I've been in a lot of situations lately where, I mean, the holidays are coming up and there's foods that would definitely spike my blood sugar if I ate them. (56:47) And I'm okay with passing it up, but I can't say that I'm gonna be able to do that forever. (56:52) I mean, I ate pretty healthy my whole life, so I think I can definitely eat pretty low carb, but I can't say there's not gonna be a day where I want a bowl of french fries or something.

Scott Benner (57:01) So It's a journey. (57:02) You'll figure it out along the way.

Speaker 3 (57:03) Yeah.

Scott Benner (57:03) But it but it is tough. (57:04) I mean, my point is is that it's tough to have an outside person tell you three months into something, hey. (57:10) You know what the the idea here is? (57:11) It's like, just eat a steak and don't touch any carbs ever again, and you won't have to do it's like, alright, man. (57:16) Well, maybe I'll just use some insulin and, like, you know, have a brownie.

Brooke (57:20) Yeah. (57:20) Exactly.

Scott Benner (57:21) I don't know what will be right for you. (57:23) You you know?

Brooke (57:24) Yeah. (57:24) I think there's a balance. (57:25) I think, you know, I'm I'll figure it out.

Scott Benner (57:28) Well, that's definitely true. (57:29) I mean, listen, the lower carb you eat, the better off, you know, you're gonna be as far as the amount of insulin you Yeah. (57:36) This podcast probably started with me saying, like, I figured out, like, that these things help my daughter's a one c says lower. (57:43) Right?

Speaker 3 (57:44) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (57:44) And as I started making the podcast, it occurred to me that I'm not in charge of how people eat.

Speaker 3 (57:51) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (57:52) There's an industry around telling people how to eat. (57:54) Right? (57:54) Like, there's somebody out there telling you to eat keto. (57:57) There's somebody out there telling you to high fat. (57:59) There's somebody telling you to eat vegetarian, vegan, blah blah blah.

Scott Benner (58:02) Like, there's people love to tell each other how to eat, and people love to get into teams and say, this is the best way to do

Speaker 3 (58:07) it. (58:08) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (58:09) I don't think that that is an open tent mentality.

Brooke (58:13) Yeah.

Scott Benner (58:14) I think that it allows you to get other people who are, you know, very hyper focused on this one thing and and get them all together and they can all tell each other, look how great this is. (58:23) But how does that help you, a new person who's diagnosed? (58:26) Right? (58:26) Or a person who's struggling or something like that who can't make a big leap and a big change. (58:30) And so my idea always was, this is how the insulin works.

Scott Benner (58:35) If you apply it this way, you should be able to keep your a one c here, your stability here, your variability here, and then go apply that to how you eat. (58:44) Now, the rest of it is, I do hope at some point people looking and realize that there are some foods that are just harder

Brooke (58:53) Yeah.

Scott Benner (58:53) And take more insulin and create more volatility and probably aren't very healthy. (58:58) And do I hope they stop eating them? (59:01) I mean, I don't care. (59:03) Like, it's not my life. (59:05) You you know what I mean?

Scott Benner (59:06) Like, I hope they're happy and I hope they're as healthy as they can be. (59:09) And if that means not eating something, because it's garbage or because it's, you know, mass produced or something like that, you know, yeah, I guess I hope they come to that conclusion. (59:20) But I also had a Swedish fish the other day and it was awesome. (59:22) I just wanna say. (59:24) Like, I had four of them.

Scott Benner (59:25) I remember them each and individually because I stretched them out before I ate them, and then I ate them in little bite. (59:33) I don't know if you know a Swedish fish, but they're

Brooke (59:35) Oh, yeah.

Scott Benner (59:36) I'm not here telling you not to eat candy or not to do anything. (59:39) Like, I just feel like it's ridiculous for me to

Brooke (59:42) come on. (59:42) Baby's coming up, by the way.

Scott Benner (59:43) Oh, we're gonna get the baby? (59:45) Yes. (59:46) Oh, so your mom's gotta go? (59:47) Well, she got a job?

Speaker 3 (59:48) Yeah. (59:49) Hi. (59:50) Here's the baby. (59:51) Okay. (59:52) Alright.

Brooke (59:54) Better and change Oh, wow. (59:56) Thank you.

Speaker 3 (59:57) So helpful. (59:58) Thank you. (1:00:00) That's okay. (1:00:03) Okay. (1:00:04) Thank you.

Speaker 3 (1:00:05) That's okay.

Scott Benner (1:00:06) Hi, baby. (1:00:08) Hi.

Brooke (1:00:10) That's fine.

Scott Benner (1:00:11) Put the baby near the ear pods so I can tell him, like, maybe don't list the daddy on everything. (1:00:15) I'm not sure yet. (1:00:16) Oh. (1:00:16) Okay.

Brooke (1:00:18) She's surprisingly quiet right now, but she might freak out. (1:00:21) So we'll see.

Scott Benner (1:00:22) Are you comfortable sharing her name or no?

Brooke (1:00:24) Yes. (1:00:25) Her name's Valerie.

Scott Benner (1:00:26) Valerie. (1:00:26) Oh, beautiful. (1:00:27) Oh, it's wonderful. (1:00:28) So nice. (1:00:29) Yep.

Scott Benner (1:00:30) Is your mom handling the fact that you have diabetes?

Brooke (1:00:32) I think she's she's accepting of it, but she's type two or sorry. (1:00:37) Prediabetic for type two, I guess, herself, so she kind of understands. (1:00:42) I'm more so the one pushing her to, like, be like, you gotta get this together because she's kind of been on and off prediabetic for a couple years now. (1:00:51) And now I'm like, look. (1:00:52) This has happened to me.

Brooke (1:00:53) Like, you could have to take insulin in the future. (1:00:56) Like, I really hope that you can, you know, manage your diet a little bit better so that you don't have to be in my situation. (1:01:02) Because I guess being type two, my understanding is you do have more control over it.

Scott Benner (1:01:07) Does your mom have any weight to lose?

Brooke (1:01:09) No. (1:01:10) That's the crazy thing. (1:01:10) She's very tiny. (1:01:12) So

Scott Benner (1:01:12) Okay. (1:01:13) But, yeah, teeny tiny little bit of that GLP might change her life.

Brooke (1:01:16) Yeah. (1:01:17) It could definitely be something I could suggest to her. (1:01:19) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:01:20) I'd love to see more people pay attention. (1:01:22) I think the upsides can be really kind of phenomenal for people. (1:01:27) What is she doing? (1:01:28) Anything? (1:01:28) Is she on metformin?

Scott Benner (1:01:29) Is she

Brooke (1:01:31) No. (1:01:31) She just goes to see her doctor every couple of months and they keep checking her a one c and they're like, as long as it doesn't get any higher

Scott Benner (1:01:38) What is it?

Brooke (1:01:38) For now, we just want you to manage your diet.

Scott Benner (1:01:40) Do you know what it is?

Brooke (1:01:41) I think the highest it was was maybe, like, 5 80 around there. (1:01:48) So, like, nothing crazy.

Scott Benner (1:01:50) Mhmm. (1:01:50) Mhmm. (1:01:51) I don't know. (1:01:52) I I don't know. (1:01:53) Hopefully, she can manage it with diet.

Scott Benner (1:01:55) That'd be awesome. (1:01:56) You know?

Brooke (1:01:56) Yeah. (1:01:56) I've I've tried. (1:01:57) I think she just isn't very knowledgeable in nutrition and, like, I'll say, okay, like, can you do eat healthier? (1:02:04) And she's like, okay. (1:02:05) Well, all I have was cereal for dinner.

Brooke (1:02:07) I'm like, okay, mom. (1:02:08) That's exactly what you shouldn't do.

Scott Benner (1:02:10) When my mom became, like, prediabetic for for a hot minute, I was like, alright, mom. (1:02:15) Like, let's get you together some lower carb options. (1:02:17) Like, go ahead and, you know, show me some stuff. (1:02:19) And everything she pulled together had carbs in. (1:02:21) I was like, mom, there's carbs in all of this.

Scott Benner (1:02:23) Mhmm.

Brooke (1:02:23) I was

Scott Benner (1:02:23) like, let's add it up here. (1:02:24) Blah blah blah. (1:02:25) You know, it's this many. (1:02:25) She goes, oh, I didn't know that. (1:02:26) She's because she thinks of things as healthy.

Brooke (1:02:29) Yes.

Scott Benner (1:02:30) Yeah. (1:02:30) And I realized because she's older too, she had thought of things as stuff that she couldn't afford as being good. (1:02:38) Does that make sense? (1:02:38) Like, when she was younger, she couldn't afford it, that made it, like, something to reach for. (1:02:44) And because it was something to reach for, then it was a good thing.

Brooke (1:02:46) And Interesting.

Speaker 3 (1:02:47) Yeah. (1:02:48) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:02:48) Like, there was, a whole, like, weird psychology around it, and she didn't understand the carbs and anything.

Brooke (1:02:53) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:02:53) Yeah. (1:02:53) Your mom eats, like, literally cereal? (1:02:55) Like, what like, tell me the brand.

Brooke (1:02:58) I don't know what cereal, but I'll just ask her, what did you have for dinner last night? (1:03:02) And and she'll say, like, toast. (1:03:04) And then she'll always say, like, oh, I I'm not eating out, like, fast food as much, and she'll get Chick fil A the next day. (1:03:13) Or we'll be at a gathering, and I'll she always has a cupcake or a cookie in her hand. (1:03:17) Like, she just loves her sweets.

Brooke (1:03:19) So I'm always like, mom, this is the thing. (1:03:21) And I don't wanna be that person to, like, make her feel uncomfortable about what she's eating, but I do understand nutrition a little bit more, and I don't wanna see her get in the same position that I am in. (1:03:33) So

Scott Benner (1:03:34) How old is she?

Brooke (1:03:36) She's 55.

Scott Benner (1:03:37) Your mom's only 55?

Brooke (1:03:39) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:03:39) Oh. (1:03:42) Oh, that's so interesting. (1:03:43) Your mom's 55 and she don't know that that Chick fil A is bad?

Brooke (1:03:48) She knows it's bad, but I don't think she realizes the extent. (1:03:52) Like, she'll say, oh, I don't have it that much, but then she'll get it that week. (1:03:56) And I'm like, okay. (1:03:57) But if you're getting it every week, like, you know, maybe try once a month.

Scott Benner (1:04:01) And cereals, that's an interesting one. (1:04:03) Cereals, like, you're you're like, you have prediabetes. (1:04:06) Eat better. (1:04:07) And she's like, I did. (1:04:08) I ate cereal.

Scott Benner (1:04:09) Yes. (1:04:10) Like, the worst thing in the world.

Brooke (1:04:12) And I think she she doesn't like to cook, and so she's like, whatever's the easiest thing to eat. (1:04:19) Like, I remember when I was in high school, my parents got divorced and we would be with her that week and we would literally have toast for dinner out of laziness. (1:04:30) So

Scott Benner (1:04:31) Is your mom doing crack or anything like that? (1:04:33) Is there something weird going on? (1:04:34) No? (1:04:35) She's not a meth head? (1:04:36) No.

Scott Benner (1:04:37) No? (1:04:37) Are you sure? (1:04:37) You're in Western Pennsylvania, aren't you?

Brooke (1:04:39) That's true.

Scott Benner (1:04:40) That's true. (1:04:40) I just gotta check. (1:04:42) Wow. (1:04:43) Toast for dinner. (1:04:43) I have to tell you what, as you do get older, there are days where you're just like, I had soup the other night.

Scott Benner (1:04:49) My kids are like, what are you gonna have for dinner? (1:04:50) I'm like, I already had soup. (1:04:52) They were like, what? (1:04:54) I'm like, soup. (1:04:55) I had some chicken soup.

Scott Benner (1:04:56) I'm good.

Brooke (1:04:57) Yeah. (1:04:57) And I mean, parenting, I'm learning, like, you don't always might have to hold a baby and figure out how I'm gonna cook chicken and broccoli for dinner, that's just not gonna happen tonight. (1:05:07) So I get it.

Scott Benner (1:05:08) I see what you're saying. (1:05:09) Okay. (1:05:09) Well, I I mean, I hope she figures it out. (1:05:11) There's a type two series in the podcast if you wanna give it to her.

Brooke (1:05:14) Okay. (1:05:15) Yeah. (1:05:15) Definitely. (1:05:16) I I'm always sending her podcasts to listen to, so Oh. (1:05:19) I will do that.

Scott Benner (1:05:19) Do you think she does she listen?

Brooke (1:05:21) I don't know. (1:05:23) And if she does, I don't know if she, like, really listens.

Scott Benner (1:05:27) Interesting. (1:05:28) I hear what you're saying.

Brooke (1:05:30) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:05:32) Okay. (1:05:32) Alright. (1:05:33) Alright. (1:05:33) Alright. (1:05:33) Awesome.

Scott Benner (1:05:34) Alright. (1:05:34) I like you being here. (1:05:35) I really I appreciate you. (1:05:37) I appreciate all all all the things you shared today. (1:05:39) It's a really interesting look into a person who is very recently diagnosed.

Brooke (1:05:44) Yeah. (1:05:45) I'm glad I could share.

Scott Benner (1:05:46) Yeah. (1:05:46) No. (1:05:46) And under really, kind of extraordinary circumstances, honestly.

Brooke (1:05:50) Yes.

Scott Benner (1:05:51) For sure. (1:05:51) You I mean, you have a different I I used to say to my wife, I'm like, I don't think we're gonna hear too many different diagnosis stories anymore, but you here you are with one. (1:06:00) You know?

Brooke (1:06:01) Yeah. (1:06:01) And, I mean, that's like every doctor I had, they were just as shocked as I was. (1:06:06) So I figured it was not super common.

Scott Benner (1:06:09) Keep filling yourself oh, the baby did a thing and now I'm all melted inside. (1:06:14) Oh, that's lovely. (1:06:15) Gonna have did you say it's yawning? (1:06:18) That was awesome. (1:06:20) You're gonna have such a lovely time raising her.

Brooke (1:06:23) Yes. (1:06:24) I already love it so much.

Scott Benner (1:06:25) Congratulations. (1:06:26) Really, really lovely. (1:06:27) And keep filling yourself with knowledge. (1:06:29) Get it all different places and then make a good decision for yourself. (1:06:32) Okay?

Brooke (1:06:33) I will for sure.

Scott Benner (1:06:34) Awesome. (1:06:34) Hold on one second for me.

Speaker 3 (1:06:36) Okay.

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#1719 Santa vs. Cookie

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A playful Christmas Eve poem where Santa uses diabetes tech, smart timing, and a little Juicebox wisdom to deliver presents, handle cookies, and stay perfectly in range all night long.

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’Twas the night before Christmas, the sleigh was all set, But Santa had data he couldn’t forget. He looked at his sensor, the arrow was straight, A perfect 100 — a number so great. He adjusted the pump underneath his red vest, Preparing for travel and feeling his best. “The night will be long,” he remarked with a grin, “With billions of cookies just waiting to win.” “I need to be bold,” Santa said to the deer, “I’ve listened to podcasts throughout the whole year. We don’t fear the insulin, don’t fear the food, We just get the timing to set up the mood.” He programmed a bolus before taking flight, To cover snickerdoodles planned for the night. “I’ll wait fifteen minutes,” he shouted out loud, To the elves and the helpers who stood in the crowd. He sprang to the sleigh, gave the reindeer a cue, “We’ve got a long flight and a job we must do. Now Dasher, now Dancer — stay focused and quick, No time for a low or for feeling quite sick.” He slid down the chimney, his pump in his pocket, And flew ’round the world like a red-suited rocket. The cookies were frosted, the milk was whole-fat, But Santa knew exactly how to handle all that. Once over the ocean, a beep filled the air, A diagonal drop gave the reindeer a scare. “Relax,” shouted Santa, “I see the slight drop. I’ll sip on this Juicebox and cause it to stop.” The drop leveled off with a graceful glide, The arrow stopped falling and turned to the side. He viewed the results with a satisfied glance, Leaving nothing to fear and nothing to chance. He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle, And away they all flew like the down of a thistle. As he shouted out loud, “That data looks right! Happy Christmas to all — may your numbers be tight.”

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