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Christian, 26, misdiagnosed as type 2, is a driven Mormon engineer managing T1D successfully while worrying about less disciplined diabetic siblings.

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Scott Benner 0:00
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Christian 0:14
My name is Christian. I am 26 years old. Live in Utah, and I have type one diabetes.

Scott Benner 0:22
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Christian 2:15
box. My name is Christian. I am 26 years old. Live in Utah, and I have type one diabetes. I mean, I live in Utah, I don't know that I'm part of anyone's gang, but,

Scott Benner 2:33
oh, really, oh yes. I

Christian 2:50
yeah, I don't really know many people here in Utah that have type one. Actually, there certainly are many Mormons of us out here. Yeah,

Scott Benner 3:15
I was 25 Yeah, about 18 months ago, almost exactly yeah. So I got

Christian 3:27
diagnosed about a week after I defended my master's thesis,

Scott Benner 3:33
and about two weeks before graduation. So you know I would Yeah.

Christian 3:44
I had all the classic symptoms, of course, but I didn't. I associated it all with like, I'm trying to jam and get this thesis done. I have this going on. And I ended up having to withdraw from a class because I just couldn't keep up with everything. And didn't even notice that I was losing a bunch of weight, etc. So yeah, it was certainly a very busy time. Well, I guess to go back a little bit, I was initially diagnosed with type two diabetes almost eight let me think I can do that maybe nine months prior. So I like go into my doctor, you know, a normal routine appointment. They do blood work, they call me. They're like, Hey, your a 1c. Is 6.4 you have type two diabetes, 24

so my response was to say, Okay, thanks, and do nothing. I ignored it. Completely ignored it didn't do anything.

Scott Benner 4:53
They just said, manage with diet and exercise.

Christian 4:59
Because. Historically, yeah. I mean, throughout college, I, you know, I gained some weight, dropped off some but, like, I play a lot of sports. I'm a relatively active person. Yeah,

Scott Benner 5:11
I don't know 510 not super average.

Christian 5:17
I honestly don't, I don't know maybe around 200 Yeah,

Scott Benner 5:31
maybe 180 Yeah, something like that. I

yeah, I don't know,

Christian 5:46
my gut reaction was just to kind of cry about it, feel really ashamed, and then say, Yeah, you know, it'll be fine, whatever. I'm ignoring it, but at the back of my mind not think

Scott Benner 5:58
about it, my grandma, but you know, she's old. No, I was ashamed.

Christian 6:10
I mean, I'm just doing my thing, whatever masters program. I got pretty sick. I think it might have been COVID. I don't know. I didn't take a test. January, start dropping weight like crazy, pee in every hour, etc. You know, I think I ended up losing like 30 pounds. For context, my brother has type one, as does my sister. So I have two siblings with it. I have a

you're testing my they're both young. I'm the oldest of seven, so they're both younger.

Scott Benner 6:52
My brother was

Christian 6:53
diagnosed about 10 years ago, and he's 22 ish, and then my sister was diagnosed while I was in college, so I don't know, maybe five years ago,

Scott Benner 7:08
civil engineering. No, I didn't know that you could get diagnosed as an adult. She was maybe 11.

No, I didn't want him to know.

Christian 7:36
I'm pretty private, yeah, but mainly about things I don't like. I'm selective about it, like I'll tell people about, you know, the time I threw a guy out at home plate, you know, in eighth grade. But like, not diabetes.

No, no, my gut reaction was, no one will ever, no one, besides my wife, is ever gonna know this.

Scott Benner 8:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Christian 8:19
She accepted it and said, That's okay, you know, do what you want, but unbeknownst to me, ended up talking with my mom about it

Scott Benner 8:27
down the road, yeah,

Christian 8:43
yeah, my vision kind of starts going. My wife is really trying to convince me that whole last semester to, like, go to the doctor, just go see what's going on. And eventually I relent, because I had this weird smell stuff going on. I don't really remember, go to the doctor, and they're like, All right, let's do blood work, see what's going on. This is in February. He's like, so what have you been doing the last six months? I'm like, What do you mean? Like, have you changed your habits at all? I'm like, no, like, I eat too much chocolate. Maybe. He's like, Well, your ANC is 13.7 and I was like, Oh, is that bad? And he's like, Yeah, I don't know, so I'm going to refer you to endocrinology making.

I got the vibe that it was a little like, yeah, serious, but endocrinology didn't have an appointment for two months. So, you know,

nope. So just going back and, you know, trying to get my masters done, and eventually, my wife convinces me to go to another doctor in. April and show up, and he's like, so your fasting blood sugar this morning was 600 I think, and your ANC is 14.7

Scott Benner 10:12
you should go to the ER,

Christian 10:16
I don't know I once I was on insulin. I didn't realize how terrible I was feeling until I like felt better,

Scott Benner 10:24
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Christian 13:34
Yeah. So I go to the hospital, and I felt stupid being in there, because they were like, I'm like, Yeah, I need to be here, but I feel totally fine. Ended up being in DK. I was there for a few days, and hospital was not very eventful, except for the fact that the doctors

weren't very competent.

I mean, the guy who admitted me, I was like, So what's going on? He's like, Yeah, you have type one diabetes. And I was like, Oh, okay. And then the attending, before I left, gave me paperwork that said type two diabetes. And I was like, Hey, why does it say type two? And she was like, it doesn't matter which type. Just don't worry about it. I'm like, Huh?

Scott Benner 14:12
She's like, just take six units with all your meals and it'll be fine. Yeah, yeah. Right now my blood sugar be like 500 all day. Yeah, no.

Christian 14:36
Well, I called my mom when I was in the hospital, and that's when she was like, Yeah, Bri has been

Scott Benner 14:43
talking to me,

Christian 14:46
and she's like, why would the doctor tell you that you have type two when you have two siblings and a cousin with type one diabetes?

Scott Benner 14:55
So she was pretty ticked off. Got

Christian 14:57
a Dexcom in the hospital, which was nice. Our. Daughter is pathogenetic Lottery, because my wife has an uncle and two cousins with type one, and I have a cousin and two siblings and me with type I have Hashimotos, as do both my siblings and my dad. My mom has rheumatoid arthritis. My dad had ecromegaly, but now that I think about it, that might have what caused his, uh, his little thyroxine dependence, I'm not sure.

Scott Benner 15:26
No, not that I know of

Christian 15:30
Crohn's is all over my mom's side of the family.

Scott Benner 15:42
Yeah, yeah,

Christian 15:44
yeah, yeah. I didn't think it was doing much, because I started taking at the same time I started taking insulin, you know. So I was like, Yeah, I feel better, but do I really need this pill? So I stopped taking it for a while, and then I was like, Yeah, okay. I

Scott Benner 16:06
her, yeah, she's too young.

Christian 16:13
I'm not sure. Partly wants to, but part of me says, like, there's nothing you can really do about it.

Scott Benner 16:19
I don't know. We'll decide later. I think,

yeah, yeah, and

Christian 16:46
we had just found out my wife was pregnant, so it was all it was all sorts of fun.

Scott Benner 16:55
Yeah, I

Christian 17:10
I think whether or not it's a good thing, I felt relieved to be diagnosed with type one, because I didn't feel embarrassed about it. I didn't feel the need to hide it, so it was almost A relief to like, be like, Oh, okay, yeah. I

Scott Benner 17:44
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Christian 17:45
I have no problem if anyone wants to talk about diabetes, but like, I would have never done that. You know, two years ago.

Scott Benner 17:58
I think it's just the whole like,

Christian 18:00
I didn't cause it. I don't need to feel feel bad about it. And it's also kind of unique. You know, not many people have type one, so there's a lot of questions and a lot of interest, rather than judgment.

Yeah, exactly. I can tell them about my insulin pump instead of like, Oh yeah, you know, did

Scott Benner 18:27
this to myself type of thing for sure. Yeah, I

Yeah.

Christian 18:56
So I started off with, you know, basal R, and I don't remember, Novolog or humilog, and I think I honeymoon pretty decently, because after the first couple weeks, it was really easy to manage.

Yeah, I asked if it was Lada, and they said, No. They think it was just a slower onset that

Scott Benner 19:21
kind of took off.

Christian 19:33
Well. My first thought was, I want to get a pump as soon as possible, not because of any management reasons, but because I really, really, really hate needles. My brother has been doing MDI for 10 years. He's never used a pump. He won't even use a CGM. My mom and I have been trying to convince him for a year, and he I even sent him some. I was like, here for free. On me. Try these. He wouldn't. I.

We're very, we're a very, very stubborn family.

Scott Benner 20:21
I don't,

Christian 20:23
I do know his habits, and I can draw conclusions from there. So I don't, I imagine he does okay, because he does care. But, like, I know if he goes low in the middle of the night, it's a eat the whole cereal box, or if he's gonna have a cupcake on the weekend, it's, you know, eight cupcakes. And he obviously doesn't know what's happening with that, because he's not testing every two hours or anything.

I think so, although he's told me he goes sometimes a few days without testing. I

Scott Benner 21:00
Yeah,

Christian 21:09
no, I know he injects his you know, no vlog, but he said he just hates the feeling of having something on his skin. And I'm like, Dude, the g7 is so small you won't even notice it. And he's like, Yeah, I will.

Scott Benner 21:26
Maybe, I don't know.

Mm, yeah,

Christian 22:01
I wish he would, just because I don't want him to have any bad outcomes. You know, I mean, so far, he's doing fine. He has no complications or anything. But he's 22 and I want the best for him when he's 62 I hope so he's dating a girl. I'm hoping that if they get married, she can be the one to, you know, be like, Hey, come on,

Scott Benner 22:26
because he's certainly not going to Listen to

me. Yeah,

Christian 23:02
the thing is, she was in like, second grade when I moved out of the house, so most of her growing up, I haven't lived there, and they live, you know, a 23, hour drive away. You know, I know her, but I don't know her experiences growing up as much. Yeah, she uses the T slim, but their insurance doesn't cover Dexcom, so she has a libre, right? I

Scott Benner 23:44
I hope so. I I know my sister

Christian 23:48
has a better a 1c than my brother, but not for caring. She doesn't care one bit. Yeah, I think she has about a mid sixes, A, 1c, and it's because she's 300 and then 50, and then 300 and then 50.

I think my mom does the best she can, but she's, you know, 16 and off doing stuff, and there's only so much she can do about it. I

Scott Benner 24:25
Yeah, yeah,

Christian 24:38
yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm, I mean, I'm an engineer. I'm very, I don't want to say type A, because I'm not, but I'm, I plan everything. I'm very organized, and, like, learning diabetes was very easy for me. Like, it just made sense. Like, the numbers, like, I've done math a lot harder than that. I didn't really get a. Lot of help. My first two endos were both useless, so I learned most of it from the podcast. And then, well, I thought I did, until my honeymoon ended, and then I was like, whoa. This is a lot harder than I thought it was going to be. Yeah, my insulin needs about doubled in about two weeks. I mean, maybe a week, because it was interesting. Over those first six months, like I would have a few days where my insulin needs would go up a good, a good bit, and then maybe a few days where they would come down quite a bit. I was low all the time, and it was kind of unpredictable.

Scott Benner 25:41
Yeah,

Christian 25:47
I mainly started with just kind of random episodes, and then I listened to the Omnipod five series, And then then the Pro Tip series. I

Scott Benner 26:10
Yeah, yeah,

Christian 26:25
yeah, so I guess I started with Omnipod, but I had the g7 so I wasn't in automated mode, and I had an ANC around seven. That way, this was, I would say, the three months post honeymoon before that, it was a lot better than that. And then changed jobs, new insurance, put an afford Omnipod, switched to the T slim. Sorry, tandem. I'm on the Moby. My last ANC was a 5.9 I think the next one will be lower, because I've had a lot more stability the last few months. This new endo that I went to was, like, the appointment before that, my endocrinologist was like, a seven is great, yeah, you're doing fine. I was like, No, I'm spiking to, like, 220 after every meal, 250 60, like, and he's like, No, you're fine. And I was like, Okay, I don't want to go that high. And I was like, What about like my basal? I feel like my basal might be too low. And he was like, No, it's fine. If you go any higher, you're gonna go low. I was like, Okay. And then this endo was like, Yeah, I think you could bump the basal by like 20%

Scott Benner 27:34
and I did that, and it made a big difference. I

Yeah, yeah,

yeah.

I did,

Christian 28:12
but I was too cautious about it. I would bump it up like point 05 at a time, and then leave that for a month or two,

Scott Benner 28:24
and I didn't want to

Unknown Speaker 28:28
do anything stupid.

Christian 28:36
Well, my endo a couple months ago, she was like, Yeah, you should bump this by like, point three. Like, that'll be fine. And I was like, really? She's like, Yeah, and she was right.

Scott Benner 28:52
I don't think it

Christian 28:53
was anything from there. I think it was just from when I was honeymooning and I was having those days, like I had a few days where I couldn't get my blood sugar above 80, where it was like I was just eating as much as I could, and just in the 60s, and I didn't want to experience that again. Kind of nervous about it.

Yeah, I mean, I feel like I should tell my sister, like, hey, just do a few things and you won't have to go to 300 and go to 50 and feel like crap. And she's like, Yeah, but it's okay, I don't care. Like, okay,

Scott Benner 29:34
yeah.

Yeah, I think for me, I don't know if

Christian 29:46
this is going to make sense. I, you know, I have a master's degree in engineering, and when people find out, like, Oh, you got to be so smart, and I'm like, No, I'm not. I'm not going to sit here and say that I'm an idiot, but I'm not that much smarter than the average person. I think that it's just I was willing to take the classes that sucked, and willing to put in the hours to study. And with diabetes, I feel like it's not the same, but it's similar. Where it's like, if you put in some effort, you'll get a lot of return. And I see my siblings putting in very little effort, it's like, just put in 20% effort and you'll get 80% of the results. I think that going through school, and, I mean, I played sports all growing up, and so that requires a lot of effort, in a sense, I think seeing the positive outcomes of not even necessarily, like working super hard. I'm not telling you to go spend 80 hours a week doing this or that, just I really believe in the 8020 rule that if you put in 20% of the effort, you'll get 80% of the results. And it hurts to See to not Care. I'm

Scott Benner 32:32
Yeah, I

Oh, yeah, we that's a lot of work.

Christian 34:18
Yeah, I in the beginning, I got in bad habits, so I don't know that it was necessarily a lack of understanding of the basics. But for example, a month into diagnosis, I could eat a brownie and barely see a rise, and

Scott Benner 34:52
then I couldn't

Christian 34:57
well no more, as in, when. I couldn't do that. I still had the habit of, like, just kind of snacking on certain foods that, like, I would end up getting that spike from.

Scott Benner 35:19
Yeah,

Christian 35:21
and I had some more, like, consider the impacts of fat and protein, because, again, it just like, I didn't really need to do many extended boluses early on. And now there are some foods that, like, you know, if I if I have pizza, if I don't do an extended Bolus, I'm gonna go low up front and treat that, and then I'm gonna go and hire later, you know, the whole thing. And it took me time to realize that, like, Oh, I do need to do all of these things. Yeah, yeah. And now, I mean, I was, I was talking with my wife a couple weeks ago, and, and I was like, diabetes for the first, like, a year, which, you know, it's only been six months since then, but the first year, it consumed so much in my brain. I was using so much effort just to try and have decent numbers. And now I don't even think about it more than, like 1520 minutes a day, I

Yeah. And I think the other big thing I was so scared to exercise that first year, because every time I tried, I would tank and I was like, Why do I want to go to the gym if I'm gonna end up sitting on the floor eating fruit snacks for half of it, you know.

And I decided a couple months ago to start training for triathlon for the first time, and I've been able to do it without a lot of low blood sugar, because I finally forced myself to learn my body's habits, or not habits, necessarily, but trends, you know, with with how different exercise at different times a day, and what different foods will do, and just learning that those patterns has made it so that I can work out, and then that, in turn, has made my blood sugar so much more stable.

Yeah, like, for example, in the morning when I'm more insulin resistant, like, I don't really need to worry about anything. I can just kind of work out and I'll be fine. But if I'm working out in the afternoon or evening, I'm gonna drop low if I don't eat something beforehand, that type of thing.

Scott Benner 38:01
Yeah, I guess,

Christian 38:03
not very funny story. I at a Costco chicken bake this one time. It's, you know, it's kind of, it's a lot of insulin, and went to play pickleball, like immediately after I finished eating, and didn't think about the fact that it was like a higher fat thing that I should have extended the Bolus on. And so about 10 minutes in, I get the 52 double arrow down, and then I tested because I almost fell over, and I was like, 27 and I was like, okay, yeah, that's why I don't feel super great. So I try not to have a ton of active insulin on board. But I

Scott Benner 38:57
it is very, very good. I,

Christian 39:14
yeah, not even thinking like I hit it hard, as if I wasn't going to do anything. I don't even know why I did that, because that was stupid, but yes, so from there I was, I've been a lot more careful about thinking about exercise when

Scott Benner 39:26
it comes to bolusing.

Christian 39:42
You You know, triathlon training takes a lot of time, so not a lot.

I like being busy. If I'm not busy, I'm bored, and it's not that I want to be too busy. I like having a few hours in the evening just to spend with with my wife, and I'm happy with that.

Scott Benner 40:19
Yeah,

Christian 40:27
I really like the short tubing. I had the tea slim for a little bit because I don't know if you know that tandem had the choice program at the end of last year. So if you bought the tea slim, then you could get the Moby for only a couple 100 bucks. So that's what I did. I bought the tea slim with the purpose of wanting to get the Moby for cheap. So I had the longer tubing for a while, and coming from omnipot, it was, like, it was, it was pretty annoying,

Scott Benner 40:53
yeah, yeah. And

Christian 40:55
like, I got used to it, and it wasn't that bad. But then coming to the Moby with the five inch tubing and the sleeve. It's not as convenient as Omnipod, I would say, but I don't notice it like Omnipod. So I really like that. And I love control, like you like, it took some time getting used to the algorithm, but there are times now where I can just be like, Yeah, that's a rise, but I the algorithm is going to take care of it. I don't need the balls here. Having An algorithm has made a massive difference.

Scott Benner 41:38
I yeah, I

Christian 42:29
It's funny. I've talked to her, to her about the algorithm, and she was like, Yeah, that's cool, but she was more interested in the Mobi because of the short tubing, not because she doesn't really care about control IQ. But my mom was like, That would be amazing for her. And my sister's like, yeah, she, uh, she plays tennis. She's like, I just take my pump off for tennis anyway, so I have it off like three hours. So like, that would make a difference there. Anyway.

Scott Benner 42:56
Yeah, yeah, she does. I

Christian 43:05
I'm hoping what it is is just her being 16, because I know when I was last couple years of high school, I didn't care what you told me if you were someone I didn't want to hear it from. I wasn't gonna do jack. I didn't I was very stubborn, and I have somewhat grown out of that,

Scott Benner 43:25
somewhat I'm no longer a jerk.

Yeah, I

Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, exactly.

Christian 44:18
I think since my brother is an adult like he still lives at home, not doing a whole lot, like he has a job and stuff, but like he's not moving out or anything right now, I think that they don't. My parents don't want to try and parent their adult child like he's still

Scott Benner 44:33
15.

Christian 44:37
Yeah, yeah. But I think that they say, like, you know you're an adult, you're gonna do what you're gonna do what you're gonna do. We'll try to convince you,

Scott Benner 44:43
but we're not gonna try and force anything. And then my sister, I'm

Christian 44:46
not really sure. I think my mom does the best she can, but she can't force my sister to change her pump when it's out of insulin, or keep it on, or remember to charge it like I know. This summer, she went to a camp and forgot. Charger so her pump was about to die and She didn't have anything to charge it with.

Scott Benner 45:16
Yeah,

Christian 45:40
uh, so my mom was the one that told me about the podcast. She was like, you know, you could listen to this podcast. Like, it's really popular. I don't listen to it. I think they're a little crazy. But like, you know, it could help. And I was like, I'll try it out. You know, I got nothing to lose. I think that there are things that my mom doesn't know nearly as well as I do, but I'm not going to try and educate my mom, and I know that she knows more than enough to have a good a, 1c probably not anything in the fives, but between six and six five, yeah, for sure,

right? I think it's more that like my sister, she she does things that impede my mom's efforts. If that makes sense. I

I think the thing that she mentioned specifically was the high alarm at 120 she was like, I would be hearing alarms all day. Like, I'm not doing that. That's crazy. I

Scott Benner 47:54
My mom is 47 Yeah,

I was 22

Christian 48:16
you know, I went to BYU, and we were, me and my wife were at college when we got married, and I was I felt kind of old for getting married. I was like, dang, all my friends are already married. I gotta catch up.

Scott Benner 48:40
Yeah, yeah. I think, oh, sorry.

Christian 48:51
I think that my sister, like, I know she won't Pre Bolus. I've talked to, like, when I'm at their house for Thanksgiving or whatever, I'll be like, hey, Sophie, we're about to eat. Like, I'm, gonna Pre Bolus, or I don't say I would say I'm gonna Bolus. And she's like, we're not eating yet. Like, but if you give insulin right now, you won't spike as high, and then you might not Go low later. And she's like, Yeah, no.

Scott Benner 49:13
Like, yeah.

Christian 49:47
Yeah, I think the hard part is trying to fit it in when life is really hard crazy, like when I when my daughter was a newborn, I remember I Bolus for dinner. And then forgot that I had Bolus for dinner because of something she did. And then 45 minutes later, I was like, Oh crap,

Scott Benner 50:08
yeah, something like that, yeah.

Christian 50:17
You know, I love her so much, and it's hard,

Scott Benner 50:26
you know?

Christian 50:38
I mean, by the time my mom was my age, she had four kids.

Scott Benner 50:44
Yeah, me too.

Oh yeah, yeah,

Christian 50:54
we're we're thinking three, maybe four tops, seven is like, holy cow. How did you afford that? How did you keep your sanity? How did you ever have sex? I don't want to know that, but you know,

Scott Benner 51:11
how much like tuition? 2500 a semester. Yeah, no 5000 a year. Yeah, yeah, 5000

Christian 51:31
I think it's gone up. I think it's a little over 3000 a semester now. But if you're, if you're more, if you're not, then it's double that.

Yeah, yeah, we graduated with very, very little student debt. Yeah,

Scott Benner 51:53
yeah.

Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah,

engineering.

Christian 52:34
I'm currently working as a I'll call it a water resource engineer. It's not a traditional engineering role. I do a lot of non technical work, but I do some technical work as well. So it's technically an engineering job without a lot of

Scott Benner 52:50
engineering work. If that makes sense,

Christian 52:55
I'm very happy. Yeah. I mean, the benefits of the insurance is so much. I got a private offer the same time as this offer and the insurance, it's not even comparable how much better it is. I've saved probably at least $10,000 a year in prescriptions.

Scott Benner 53:21
Yeah,

Christian 53:25
I think whatever is going to happen is going to happen, and it's better to live a life with diabetes than to not live a life at all.

Scott Benner 53:38
A mission. Yeah, I did, yeah. I went to El Salvador,

Christian 53:45
lived in El Salvador, and taught people about our church

Scott Benner 53:48
and about Jesus. Missions are two years. No, she didn't go on one i No, this is before I met her.

Christian 54:06
We were meeting to getting married in about six months.

Scott Benner 54:13
Slow for my family. My parents were two months It's been 26 years now. And yeah,

Christian 54:37
you make references that I don't understand a lot. Yeah, I

Scott Benner 54:48
No,

exactly, yeah, I. Probably not.

Christian 55:03
I feel old because I don't know a lot of the new stuff that current high schoolers are doing, because I don't have anyone in that time of life, in my life right now, and so I'm old enough that I don't know that stuff, but young enough that I don't know the Old stuff. I

Scott Benner 55:49
I don't think so. Yeah, thanks. Applause.

Christian 56:06
I mainly listen for the stories at this point. I like the episodes with like Jenny and that type of stuff. My family doesn't talk about diabetes ever. My siblings don't want to talk about it. My parents don't really want to talk about it. And so even though I have a ton of type one in my life, most of my like sense of community, I guess you could Say, has come from listening to other people's

Scott Benner 56:42
stories. I

right, yeah, I like the mix, yeah, yeah, I think it's good. I

my wife's not pregnant right now. I I'm not sure when I got diagnosed. Yeah.

Christian 57:22
Uh, no, thank you not right now is chaotic enough. I

Scott Benner 57:51
Yeah,

yeah, thanks.

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