#960 Dew Drop Diaries

Both of Rick's daughters have type 1 diabetes. Rick is the creator of the new Netflix series, "Dew Drop Diaries" - available today on NETFLIX.

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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, welcome to episode 960 of the Juicebox Podcast.

On today's episode I'll be speaking with Rick Now Rick is the father of two children with type one diabetes. And he has a really incredible job Rick has created, written and produced some really awesome children's television. His brand new showed do drop diaries is available right now on Netflix. While you're listening today, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan or becoming bold with insulin. If you'd like very comfortable sheets, clothing and towels, go to cozy earth.com and use the offer code juicebox at checkout when use that offer code at checkout, you will save 40% off of your entire order. If you're looking for community around you diabetes, check out the private Facebook group Juicebox Podcast type one diabetes there are 40,000 people in their caregivers people with type one people with type two, all kinds of interesting conversations. You never know who you'll bump into actually Rick's a member go tell him how much you enjoyed, do drop diaries

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Rick Suvalle 2:47
My name is Rick Savelle. And I'm the father of two t one D daughters. I'm also a television writer and producer. I was the head writer on Amazon's animated series, the stinky and dirty show. And I created the new Thomas and Friends reboot that came out last year. And I'm currently the executive producer and creator of a new preschool animated series called The dewdrop diaries that will be coming out probably right whenever this airs on Netflix. And this show is very special to me. Because it was inspired by my two T one D daughters.

Scott Benner 3:21
Wow. Alright, we're gonna get into all of that. But first I have to understand how do you how do you get into this kind of work? What's the path?

Rick Suvalle 3:30
Um, you know, I got I started at with a with one of those pity favorite meetings. Were when I first came out to Los Angeles, my grandmother said she had a her best friend's kid was a producer and writer in law and order and I should go meet with him. And I went out to the universal lot and had lunch with him. And I'm sitting there in a jacket and tie. And he's the first thing he says is I hope you didn't wear that for me because you know, you're creative. You're supposed to be in your jeans and your T shirt and I was like oh, and so this guy ended up we hit it, we really hit it off. We were both like lactose intolerant and played you know, clarinet in the sixth grade. And so he took a shine to me and kind of mentored me and got me my my first gig writing and that kind of snowballed into writing. I've written movies for Sci Fi Channel and Hallmark Channel and, and then I kind of got into animation just because I had met enough writers over time. And they they gave me a shot and I kind of just worked my way up the ladder there.

Scott Benner 4:35
So all this is because you can't tolerate milk and you played the clarinet.

Rick Suvalle 4:39
Is that what I'm here actly exactly the key to everyone's success in this business.

Scott Benner 4:46
So what did you do in high school and did you go to college?

Rick Suvalle 4:49
I in high school. I was one of the dramas. You know, I really liked the theater program at my high school and but I'd love to write I always love to write at that point and So I went to college at Hofstra University in New York. And my wife and I met there, and we drove out to Los Angeles together. And we've been together for a long, long time. Wow. That's

Scott Benner 5:14
crazy. So you just you wanted to write it first. That was just your first

Rick Suvalle 5:17
I did, I wanted to, I think I wanted to, I mean, I studied in college, you know, writing and film. And I had this kind of idea of being that indie writer, director. And then once I met my mentor, his name is Morgan, Dell might as well give them a shout out. When I met my mentor, I kind of saw how TV worked. And I saw that it was a lot more fast paced, you know, it can take years for movie. And if you're just a writer on a on a film, you're often a low person on the totem pole, the director is kind of the star of the production. And then, but I learned in TV, you know, the producer, the writer, producers are the people in control. And the directors end up being kind of somewhat blue collar, and they're for hire on TV shows. So I mean, obviously some rise to being executive producers as well and great shows, but for the most part, it that's more of a journeyman type job. And so I just like that, that, seeing that that power that they had, I mean, not that it's like, you know, crazy power, but I just I liked that they had the creative control of the show.

Scott Benner 6:22
It's interesting that I did you grow up around anybody who was creative in your sphere, even a story like, like that. The reason I asked is because I wanted to write my whole life growing up. And I was a terrible student. And I didn't know anybody. And I lived in a very blue collar family. And I always had the feeling that if I said to my mom or dad, you know what I'm thinking? What if I wrote my feelings down about this, I think they would have been like, oh, you should shut up and go get a job is was always kind of my fear. So I didn't do it. The podcast happened after I wrote a book. But the book came from a blog. And, and I enjoyed the process so much, but then it was, it was unfulfilled, like the process was fulfilling. At the end of it, I found myself realizing like, I don't even care if anybody, like, reads this, like, I just want to, like, I would like to make more. And it was because books are, I mean, they're tough. If you're not famous, it's hard to get somebody to read your book, you know?

Rick Suvalle 7:24
Yeah, it's it's such a different discipline for me, like I've thought about writing a book, but that's really as far as it's gone. Because, you know, it's writing screenplays and writing, you know, teleplays very different process, and you don't, in a novel, you can talk about how people think, and you can talk about your thought process. And, you know, in, you know, in a screenplay, you're really kind of cutting it down to be like a blueprint of what we're going to see. I mean, sure, there's creativity in there, for sure. And the best screenplays have style and, and a voice, but at the same time, you're cutting the quick. And so I don't really have the discipline, I'd like to write a play too. But at some point, I have an idea. But for me, it's like, two hours of people just talking, whereas I'm so used to like, we got to get to the next scene, no entrances, no exit said it's always fast paced and what moves things forward. Whereas, you know, in the play, you just kind of ruminate. And so, but yeah, I actually, I had a blog for awhile, too, because I was a, you know, being a writer, you're not always working. So I was a stay at home dad. Like yourself. Yeah. You know, and, you know, so I started blogging about my adventures of being a stay at home dad, and then it kind of, some of that kind of got picked up as somehow I became like, a parent expert for a little while, you know,

Scott Benner 8:50
around 2012 2013, because that's about when that happened to me.

Rick Suvalle 8:54
Yeah, it was, it was probably around that it was probably around that. Yeah,

Scott Benner 8:57
for sure. Yeah. blogs were really strong then. And a lot of producers were reaching into the internet to find people, and I would find myself in the oddest situations. The podcast actually partly exists because of that. Because a producer for Katie Couric, I think needed a stay at home dad in the New York area. And she just googled it and found my website it was like this guy's a stay at home dad he's written a book. And then the suddenly I was on television being interviewed about like being a stay at home dad. And while these other three guys, they were so earnest, and I just remember one of them had only been a stay at home data for like a year and he was being so earnest. I started I was laughing at him, which I don't think is protocol. And, and it swung back to me. And then I just did this thing where I had done it done an interview prior to that. I did something honestly for Katie Couric sub web show first, and I thought this was going to be my only chance ever. And they took me up to New York and I was in I think CBS where they do the CBS Evening News obviously in that studio and they were using it during the die. So people were working in cubicles everywhere behind behind the director, and behind the cameras. And a guy went before me. And he was good. Like, he answered the questions and he was thoughtful. And I thought, that's nice. But I was standing in the wings, and I thought it's completely forgettable. Like, like, what do I care if this is good, I'm never doing this again. You know what I mean? And like, 10 minutes later, I'm telling Katie Couric about the time my wife and I had sex in a field with a train went by very slow. And we're, I'm telling you, all these kind of bombastic stories that I'm just like, no one's gonna use this, and I don't give a fuck. I was like, I was like, I'm going for it, you know. And she's laughing. I looked up, the people in the cubicles are laughing, everyone's having a good time. And like a week later, I get this note from her assistant, and it says, hey, the raw footage from your interview is like, going around the office, and people are having such a great time. The actual thing we're going to use is like 90 seconds long, because you didn't say anything we can actually use. And I was like, I was like, I don't care. But then two weeks later, come on the TV show. And when I was walking off again, I kind of thought this was it. And she grabbed me. And she goes, You're so good at talking to people. And I said, Oh, thank you. And then I didn't know what else to make of that. But like a year later, as blogging waned away, I thought, Oh, I'll make a podcast. Because Katie Couric said, I was good at talking to people. And that was my, the entire basis I had for even trying this, which was amazing. It's awesome. It's just dumb luck. Honestly, it's not lactose intolerance and clarinets. But it's pretty good. So you and I intersect each other originally, right? Because you were you have two kids with type one, but one of your kids is named Arden.

Rick Suvalle 11:43
Correct? Yeah. I when I was Googling around, like I was struggling for like, what? What's out there? What resources are there? And I was like, and then I saw, I'm like, Wait, there's another T one D dad that has a, you know, has has has a kid named Martin. And I was just like, wow, so I think we exchanged some messages a long time ago, a long time

Scott Benner 12:03
ago. I said it to my daughter and she goes get out of here. Are you serious? And I was like, Yeah, I was like, that's crazy, right? Because there's only I don't know how far you looked into it when you were naming your children. But we looked at the time that we picked Arden as a name. I think there was fewer than 10,000 people in America named Arden and more than 50% of them are men. It's like an older man's name. Yeah, like, so. I don't know. That just seems very random. You know? Yeah. And

Rick Suvalle 12:31
we really, and we love the name because it was so rare. You know, we're like, oh, this is great. It's not quite Apple, you know, you know, but we felt like it was, you know, original and yet not, you know, so crazy. Yeah,

Scott Benner 12:44
that's terrific. It really is. It's wonderful. I'm sure will go on long enough. We'll start an army of children named Martin and have diabetes are probably not probably will ever happen again. So how you have two kids? How old are they?

Rick Suvalle 12:57
Right now? They're 14 and 1714. Arden? 17. Martin

Scott Benner 13:01

17. Wow, look, they're so close in age two. That's crazy. Who gets type one first?

Rick Suvalle 13:08
Arden did. She was about eight years old just to turn to eight. Okay. And then Alex, we found out. We did try on that. And so we were like, catch it. So no hospital for the second kid. We caught it. But that was about a year and a half later when Alex was maybe two years later when Alex was six.

Scott Benner 13:29
Okay, so they've 10 year about 10 and eight years they've had it? Yeah. Is there any autoimmune in your family line or your wife's?

Rick Suvalle 13:39
Yeah, we have to kind of research that. My mother in law has rheumatoid arthritis. And so I know that is an autoimmune disease. And then we did find out like much later that my grandfather's sister probably had type one. Okay, so it'd be my great aunt. But I had never met her so she died before was born. So I think that she was, you know, she's lucky to live as old as she did, you know, with the with the old insulin regimen that she had,

Scott Benner 14:10
ya know, some that that really is a toss of the dice back then I had somebody recently tell me that. Similarly, like a greater great, maybe a grandmother, a great grandmother, they thought had type one and she asked her father and the father said, All I know is she really had to watch it. That was like the extent of the information they got, you know, from it. So, okay, so there's no real I mean, Ras auto immune, your wife already has bad luck, She plucked the guy out of Hofstra and he was a stay at home dad. So she, she's not. She's not on a great roll until this whole thing starts working out for you. But for sure. Yeah. So when what's the first diagnosis look like? The second one obviously, you knew what to look for. But the first one how did it go?

Rick Suvalle 14:51
Yeah, the first one was, you know, my wife, you know, she's a WebMD Sleuth. So she was just my daughter. I was kind of a pudgy kid. And then when she was about eight, she was in the elementary school play. And she got the flu, which we realized that was the trigger for the gene because suddenly she was losing weight. And I'm like, my wife, so worried she's losing weight. I'm like, she's looking great. And my wife is like, but she's going to the bathroom a lot. And you know, she's eating eating a ton and losing weight, but something has to be wrong with her. And I was like, there's nothing wrong with her. And so my wife eventually said, you know, I think she could have type one diabetes? No, I don't. I didn't know anything about that. So we were scheduled in July, you know, like a month after my daughter's birthday to go in for her physical and I said, Let's just wait till then. And we'll go in. And I'll ask them, ask the doctor about that. So my wife agreed to kind of wait for that. Meanwhile, my daughter goes to summer camp, and for some strange reasons she was passing out from time to time. But we took her in and I remember I said the doctor Oh, my wife, you know, as if it was like Colombo, one last thing. You know, I was like, can you see when you do bloodwork that if she has type one diabetes, my wife thinks, and the doctor says, oh, let's do a urine test right now. And she said, Oh, my gosh, she her blood sugar is 711 You need to go to the hospital right now. And I was like, oh, but they're like, since we're already at the hospital where the doctor is, you know, just kind of hanging out with her for a bit. And we'll make sure we can get her set up there. So you don't have to walk right into the emergency room. So I knew nothing about type one diabetes, and I thought my daughter would never have sweets again. So I took her to the, to the commissary at Cedars Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles and said, he had all the sweets you want right now, kiddo have have that sugar doughnut? And because I had no idea. And so she's just mowing that down. And then they come in into the hospital. Like, that's probably not the best idea, but we'll get it under control.

Scott Benner 16:57
Rick, you got crazy dad logic, I love it. Also, what's the bigger concern in the moment that your daughter has type one or that you're gonna have to tell your wife that she was right, and you were ignoring?

Rick Suvalle 17:09
Well, it's always worse if I have to tell my wife. She's right. And she always is she always is. But yeah, so it was it was fine. I mean, we had that, you know, that I think two nights stay in the hospital, and where they kind of gave us that whirlwind training where that you will forget every single thing they say, and you're looking at this paperwork afterwards. But yeah, so I mean, that was, that was it was very weird and surreal. And, you know, having to give needles and dealing with schools immediately afterwards. And you know, there's not enough nurses and in Los Angeles for the schools, they share them. So like, they have to schedule the nurse to come by to make sure she has her shot. And I do remember right away, my daughter went back to school, and the nurse, you know, was, you know, really hurt her with the shot, you know, they were not trained well, so my daughter and eight goes, I'm giving myself shots. And so she instantly was giving yourself shots, which was great. And, yeah, so it was it was a difficult transition.

Scott Benner 18:11
For sure. I would imagine what did she spend much time in the hospital?

Rick Suvalle 18:15
Just the just the two nights, but she was never technically one. DKA so she was kind of just in it, you know, I think that vine had just come out, you know, that, that that six second video, you know, social media thing. So she's making vine in the hospital, the nurses and she, you know, like, she was just having a blast in the hospital like, hey, people are waiting on me hand and foot, you know,

Scott Benner 18:39
those people must be pissed about tick tock, the vine, people for sure. I bet they wake up every morning and they're like, dammit, we were ahead of our time. But it happens sometimes. Sometimes you have a good idea before everybody else is ready to, to believe in it. Okay, so does she use while she's on MDI for how long? Because I'm hearing when we were talking before we got on like, she's pumping now. Right?

Rick Suvalle 19:03
Yeah. She was on MDI. For the first six months. I guess that was protocol. Didn't know you could find it and do things earlier. But they said we want six months, basically. So you understand how to do MDI. So. So we were about six months before we got the approval for her to go on the Animus ping at the time.

Scott Benner 19:19
Yeah. Wow. No CGM. At the time.

Rick Suvalle 19:23
There was. So we did get one about that same time. We did get the CGM

Scott Benner 19:27
Bouchy, was that g4?

Rick Suvalle 19:28
Yeah, it was the g4. No Cher, as you know, at that time, so I did that I did that hack, the Nightscout hack where I had the the uploader phone which would go in her purse at school and you know, wire to the CGM and send me the data so I would have that. Yeah,

Scott Benner 19:46
I put a Oh, my God, I don't think I've ever said this on here. It used to be able to buy like, back then I think it was like three. I don't know if it was GS or 3g, but it was like a cell phone repeater that you plugged in And I bought one of those and like, artfully put it in the middle of Arden's classrooms that she was in. And like I was getting data from her that way. And that Oh, nice. Yeah, that was before the school had Wi Fi. They were like, What are we doing? I'm like, I'm just plugging this in right here. You won't even know it's here. I'll be back at the end of the year to get it from you. Don't worry plugin, they went forward. So awesome. As was actually hairy back then you had to like, there was a lot to do. You had to I had to talk to the I had to talk to sell company to let me put it somewhere that wasn't my address. And like, there was a ton that went on with it. And in the end, like it felt like six months later, Dexcom was like, Hey, here's the share. I was like,

Rick Suvalle 20:40
yeah, yeah, that was that was a nice change. For sure. Yeah. Okay.

Scott Benner 20:43
So what do you think about the impact on your life? Because you're in a unique situation? Were you still a stay at home dad at that point?

Rick Suvalle 20:53
I was, I mean, on and off, because, you know, the freelance life, the TV life, I'm in between jobs all the time. And so yeah, and I to this day, I'm still the the primary care provider for all t one D stuff. For both my kids. I'm the one getting up at night, you know, still and my wife could

Scott Benner 21:14
set your punishment. Is that your punishment for not listening when she told you?

Rick Suvalle 21:17
Yeah, or it's the fact that my wife could could, you know, sleep through an earthquake here, a nuclear holocaust? So, but yeah, I'm up with that up for the highs and lows? And

Scott Benner 21:31
how will it change you like what was the did have an impact on your personality and your outlook? And I'm interested?

Rick Suvalle 21:38
It did. I mean, I think it did, I mean, really got involved, I really felt like, what can I do, because he I think we all feel so helpless when our kids are diagnosed. And so I, you know, was doing my research and I started doing JDRF events, we did a walk that first year, because we're like, maybe we can raise me because we've all heard, like, the cure is only five years away. And so and you believe that, you know, in that, that beginning stages, because you have to and so I was like, let's raise money for it. And we raised a lot. And so as a result that JDRF reached out to me saying, Hey, would you want to be on the board of directors for the Los Angeles chapter, and I just felt like I was doing something proactive, and I would be able to get, you know, I would hear about the research early, I would, you know, be able to kind of, you know, help, you know, raise money for for more research. So I was really into the JDRF, I still love the JDRF I'm not part of it now. But I still, you know, I'm associated with them. Part of it was I was mentoring newly dos family and newly diagnosed families, you know, in the area, they would often assign me that and they became a big part of our family. My Arden was, you know, their spokesperson for the for the walks on the news and stuff like that. So she, she was just cute and great personality. So they would use her picture, and she would do go around and do talks when she was eight and nine years old.

Scott Benner 23:01
I think my Arden did, they went we went down to I think the ABC Studios to film a commercial for the local walk, and she just sitting there, like smiling and waving and I asked her about it recently. And she's like, I don't remember that. It's a great, good use of our afternoon. So, but, but I take your point, too, about this stuff, like we jumped in with JDRF very quickly. Honestly, the blog started because I didn't raise very much money the first year. And I was like, like how I put all this effort into it. And I raised like a couple $1,000 And I was like, I'm gonna use the internet. Everybody's talking about the internet. But how many? How many of you that seriously, that's how long ago it was, I was like, I'm gonna make a thing. And, and I got on, I had an Apple computer, and it had this program on it called iWeb. And I used iWeb for sure the promise of iWeb is you can put your thoughts on the internet. And I was like, Get out of here seriously. So I use that. And I started writing a blog before honestly, I don't even think I knew what a blog was getting, you know, when I was doing it. But I take your point, like, you know, in the beginning, you have that feeling of like we really, like I want to help. And I don't know how, you know, so it's a it is it's a it's kind of a terrible feeling if you can't fulfill it, because it just feels like you're not doing anything.

Rick Suvalle 24:21
Yeah, I mean, that's why I you know, the minute I heard about loop, I, I went out and found those old Medtronic pumps and started looping with both my daughters, you know, I immediately was doing loop I was doing anything I could, to kind of make things better for them. You know, we we've tried, you know, all the different pumps we've tried, you know, MBI my old my younger daughter is in an Frezza study now. I mean, we're, I'll do anything to try and kind of make their lives better if I can.

Scott Benner 24:48
Yeah. How does she like that? That's in the inhaled insulin. How she like yeah, it's

Rick Suvalle 24:51
great. I mean, it is so fast. And I mean, it's it's that ultra rapid so if she's, you know, we We can't take it before eating and we often can't take it before she starts to go up because it's that fast. So the minute she starts see the rise, she can take it but like if she was 300, and she took the Frezza within I mean, you look at that Dex, those Dexcom numbers between the high number and the next number, it's already going down. So she was she's, she can drop, you know, in minutes back to normal. It's

Scott Benner 25:26
because that's interesting. And that's just a meal insulin, is that correct?

Rick Suvalle 25:29
No, we're I mean, part of the study that she's doing is that all our corrections and meal everything she but she still has to take

Scott Benner 25:35
a you know, a Basal insulin, okay, she shooting to SIBO or something like that.

Rick Suvalle 25:40
We just started to receive it because we were using like, the generic Lantis, which doesn't have doesn't last as long she would start to rise. But for SIBO I think it's 42 hours. So

Scott Benner 25:50
it tells itself a little bit. And yeah, it's nice. You don't have a drop off like you do with Lantis and love Amir. And does she like that? Or is she just doing it to do it? Like as she indicated to you? Well, she

Rick Suvalle 26:02
definitely likes the little bit of money she gets every time she shows up, but she's 14 But she like but she actually really likes it because she was very shy about giving her she she switched to NDI. You know, some were around six to nine months ago, she was getting, we were getting a lot of scar tissue on her stomach where she likes to put her pumps sights. So she was not getting good absorption at all. So we switched to, to MDI, and it was much better. And she was liking that a lot. She really likes MTI because she's very active too. And, you know, pump wires get in the way. And she she likes that. And so when it came up to try the Frezza, she's like, Sure, I'll try that. And she loves it because she would wait in class to you know, like, she likes to put in her legs, she doesn't want to pull down her pants in class, she doesn't want to go to the bathroom, she's too embarrassed. So she will. But in class, you can take out her little thing and pretend she's vaping to make all the other middle schoolers go what's going on? And so she does that, and she loves it. And so she's just much more on top of it.

Scott Benner 27:10
Let's go. How long does the trial go for? One year? Okay, how long have you been at it? One month? Oh, wow. That's the very beginning. Now, Arden only ever did one thing. When I think Omnipod made a change to the PDM. And the FDA required them to basically put it in users hands and make sure they could operate it. So they needed people to come to this office and do it. We drove it was down in Philly. Then we drove down and art and just sat at a table and took direction from people and did everything and they filmed her. And when it was over, they gave her $500. And she was like, Yes, we have now found it. Like she's like, What am I going to do with all of this money? And I was like, I don't know, what do you think? And I believe she bought clothing with it. So. But yeah, it's interesting when when that stuff goes, well, I'd love to hear about it at the end. And yeah, let's see how it goes. Was there any, like was Arden like, Hey, I'd like to do this too, or was this something you need?

Rick Suvalle 28:05
Well, she couldn't because it's only for kids that are an MDI. So in this particular study that they're doing, because they you know, they want people that are already on the Basal insulin, so they can swap out shots for that. Okay, so an Arden is about to hit 18. Next in a month and a half. So the they want under it's an under 18 study. Yeah. Is she going to college? She has she just got accepted to UC San Diego. Oh, lovely. And that's where she's going to head

Scott Benner 28:37
is that far from home?

Rick Suvalle 28:39
It's about two hour drive. Or she can hop on a train that actually goes right into our town in Burbank, California. So that's kind of nice that we don't have to drive down and pick her up that kind of stuff. Ya

Scott Benner 28:50
know, Arden is about a 14 hour drive from us. Oh, wow. Where she's where she at? She's at SCAD in in Savannah. Okay, great. Yeah, she wants to do fashion design. So she's going there for that. But I, prior to a year ago, I had been to Atlanta once in my entire life, or the Georgia in Georgia at all. And in the last year, I think I've been there six times. So my, my daughter starts going to college there. My son graduates from college. He's like, I got a job and I'm like, Great wherever he goes, Atlanta and I'm like, Are you kidding? I was like, what do we live in Georgia now? So anyway, I've been there quite quite a little bit. Well, I wish her a ton of luck. I hope that's successful. Is she nervous about leaving with diabetes? Are you nervous about it?

Rick Suvalle 29:37
I think so. I mean, I think she's, I mean, she's doing well. A lot of pressure this time of year, you know, trying to get into college and finals and AP exams and prom, all that fun stuff about being you know, a 17 year old. So I think she is a little she was a little nervous. She was waffling between two colleges, but when we went down, we actually went down there last weekend. To check it out for the first time And she just felt at home. It turns out one of my diabetes parent friends as a kid who's gonna be in the same dorm as her next year, who's a type one diabetic? And so I think she's, she's handling it pretty well. I mean, she has a tough time managing her diabetes, she, I mean, she's one of these kids who she's worried about lows. So she lets herself go high in stressful situations, like a test, or I'm doing the choir show and just unplugged. And then suddenly, you're like, why am I 400? Why do I feel like crap? And so I am, I'm a little nervous for her, like, what's new stressors? Will they be in college? And will you be able to handle it in terms of, I'm sure she will, but I just want to make sure she's on top of it. And, you know, my wife is prepared to like, turn off the Dexcom when my daughter goes to college, because she just doesn't want to know,

Scott Benner 30:52
I, I'll tell you that the My biggest, like, speed bumps so far has been that Arden is a team. And you know, they're respectful of the idea that, you know, she knows she's a college, and we're paying for that kind of stuff. Like, she's not an ass about it or anything like that. But there is this thing where they could just not answer you. Right, you know, and they can, like, say, look, Bob, this, I already know what I'm doing. I'm doing this, if it's not happening quickly enough for you, I don't know what to tell you. But I'm not getting involved in this conversation that that started a little at the end of high school where she was sort of like I'm doing it because we put it into her hands a lot more. And we're getting ready for college. And there were times I'm like, you need to, like, do something here. And she's like, I know, or I don't agree with you. And I'm like, I'm like, there are times when I'm like, you know, I'm the guy from the podcast, like, I'm pretty sure I'm right about this, you know, and she's and she's like, I don't care. So, but I've learned that they're just that they're more learning experiences. And the one we're often gets stuck on is at the end of a site. You know, like, there are just times when your site's only got a few more hours on it. And you've used a bunch of insulin already for the last few days and just needs to be changed. And I'll send her a text and I'll say this, like gave up like, you have to change it. No, it's going to be okay, there's 40 units left on using these blah, blah, blah. And then her blood sugar's 250 A couple of hours later. And I see that she's changed the pump, like I look on Nightscout like, she changed the pump. And I was like, ah, like, I don't throw it back. And I don't say anything. Honestly, I just go oh, she she's, she saw cause and effect here. And she's getting better at it as time goes. So very recently, it happened again, I said, Hey, I know you don't like this as an answer. But that's not okay. anymore. You should change it. And never answered me. But she changed the pump. And I was like, Oh, I think I won.

Rick Suvalle 32:44
Yeah, I think I think it's the same thing. I'll say to my daughter, like, come on, I can tell you unplug. I'll send in a text message and stuff like that. There's no answer. And then you see the number go down, you know, you know, because she's actually corrected and replug in

Scott Benner 32:55
does she have a an experience that makes her concerned about lows? Or is it just a theoretical worry,

Rick Suvalle 33:02
it's theoretical, that's what's kind of, that's what bothers me is the fact that it hasn't happened. I'm like, we I always say to him, like, we haven't let you die yet. You know, and, you know, so and she hates when I say that to her. But I'm like, you know, you she hasn't had a dangerous low and so I'm just really baffles me, but I but I'm not a type one. So I don't know what goes through her brain and we all have, you know, different things that bother us. So it's just something she's working through, you know, we've tried to work with her and you know, you know, she she tries you know, she's like, can you lower the bait helped me lower the Basal send so that I don't, you know, so that I don't the pump doesn't take me too low. And so we you know, that's kind of how we, we've dealt with it.

Scott Benner 33:49
Does she have anxiety about anything else?

Rick Suvalle 33:51
Yeah, I think she's an anxious person. And but like, it's saying she's doing a lot better, you know, in this past few months, you know, she's been just working really hard about trying to get over some of her you know, hang ups, just you know, in terms of, you know, for herself too, because she knows she's gonna go to college and a lot of this stuff will stack up so she's trying to kind of get over these things now which I applaud her for doing Yeah.

Scott Benner 34:15
Oh, I think that I mean, there's clearly a process that they have to go through it like you can't save them from having this experience the only your only real like, like genuine concern in my opinion, is the the you don't want them to get off the rails in a way that the rails the next years of their life or that they find their way back from like I think that's the bigger concern really.

Rick Suvalle 34:37
Yeah, I just remember I got some I remember going I don't know if your Arden went to like any of the diabetes camps you know during the summer but like we went up there we first went to the family camp and then she she's gone every summer since but I remember the counselors had like the took the parents aside for a while and told their stories to us and one of them said Don't get mad at your kids about their blood sugar's you know be because if you start yelling at them about their diabetes, they'll rebel at some point, like we all rebelled, we decided just not to Bolus, and I was like, wow, it just was it opened my eyes. So I've always kept it kind of even keel even when I'm doing exactly what you're doing, you know, which is, hey, by the way, sites old, you know, keep it even keel and never get angry that kind of stuff and you know, obviously we're concerned for her health if she keeps it up certain things and we have, you know, honest conversations about that, but that was I'm so glad I got that advice early on that, you know, try and keep it because, you know, we can all get kind of worked up, you know about things and I work hard not to and I keep I kind of keep my wife is the emotional one about diabetes. And I'm kind of for me, I'm like, I've compartmentalized it. It's all business, you know, like time to change the site time to do this. Your blood sugar's high, you need this many these many units. You know, I'm always talking to kids that way. It's very business oriented. Yeah,

Scott Benner 35:56
no, I think I fall more towards your side of it as well. I listen, Arden had a tough week, last week with her period. And she I saw her fighting with her blood sugar, like for days. And you know, it kind of beat her up by the end of the week. She's like, between my period and my blood sugars, and like schools, like I'm, like, I'm exhausted. So we talked to her Thursday, and we're like, just go to sleep, like, just come back. You don't have class on Friday, like, go sleep it off a little bit. And she's actually did that today. And, you know, it does remind you to take care of yourself. Yeah, and I think the I think the issue can be and this is just me, kind of extracting from conversations I've had with people, but you can get into that situation, be faced with it and say, Okay, I'm going to do the things that help this. Or you can just, like, throw your hands up and be like, Screw it. And people have come on over and over again, you know, in their late 20s to tell their story about college. And they go one way or the other. They're either like, I went there, and I took really good care of it. And I'm good, or I went there and I ignored it the way you were, you'd be worried about and it did me in for for a good stretch of time after that. And then you know, it took me a while to get back to it. And that's the part you know, again, that's just the part I'm trying to avoid. I'm sure she'll be fine. Like it's just, I mean, you're supporting her, you're available. I think that's a big deal. You know, she knows you're there and you'd be willing to help I couldn't set off the Dexcom that part I don't understand that I

Rick Suvalle 37:27
can't do it. You know, I have seen her get angry at my wife for you know bugging her about her blood sugars. And then my she just turned Cher off and I don't have anything either. So but she just then then you know, she's over being angry, you know, few hours later and then share pops back on but that's fine, you know,

Scott Benner 37:45
but that's a mother and daughter thing to maybe just like you don't go out to check on your own kid on the pitcher's mound when you don't send a dad out to talk to their son while they're pitching and it's not going well. So tell me a little bit I picked through your IMDB a little bit but tell me a little bit about your about the path you've been on with animation and what got you to this project.

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Rick Suvalle 42:12
was able to do a couple animated, you know, series episodes early in my career and then kind of, but they were kind of one offs with not people that were like regulars in the business. And I always kind of wanted to get into animation. I've always been a fan of it. And I love you know, the the world building and the creativity involved. So it took me a long time to kind of get my way into animation. So I was you know, biding my time with those Sci Fi Channel movies and Hallmark movies that you see on my IMDb and but then a friend of mine had created this show called the stinky and dirty show on Amazon. And he said, you know, you want to write an episode for me. And I'm like, for sure. And we I actually got I got kind of blocked at the time by Amazon because they felt that like I didn't have animation credits. I didn't have preschool animation credits, it's a slightly different type of writing. And so, but my friends, like, you know, writers, right, you know, I can I can teach him how to come up to speed really fast on that kind of stuff. But he's a good storyteller. And I believe in him. And they initially said no, and then because they I think they were wanting like the Amazon, you know, was new. And they wanted they call these Emmy winners. And eventually, when those people didn't work out kind of rested on their literal laurels. They, you know, not even, you know, putting periods of end of sentences. My friend said, Now, can we bring Rick in? And they said yes. And in the meantime, this friend was such a good friend. He's like, let's let's build you up some street cred and get you on some other shows. And he recommended me for a couple other shows. And I was able to get some animation credits while I was waiting for that. And to Amazon's credit, though, they basically said, Oh, this guy did a good job, maybe next season, we can make him the head writer. So that worked out really fast. And so that that kind of started on the path there. I don't know if that.

Scott Benner 44:08
I'm also wondering if it's when they start off and they want those pedigree people if the pedigree people aren't like, oh, we can steal some money from this real quick and move on. Then you get to the people who really want to work and, you know, it makes sense to me. Does that show still run? Or how long did it go for

Rick Suvalle 44:26
it still, I mean, we got a couple seasons out of it on Amazon. It's still there. People are still discussing the great thing about like, you know, the way streaming is people new people discovered all the time I had a meeting the other day where they're their kids four years old, and it's he's a boy and he loves trucks. And that show was, you know, for your listeners, it's about you know, a dump truck and a backhoe loader who are best friends who solve problems with garbage and resourcefulness. And so, you know, it's very, you know, quote unquote boy show. So you know, anytime before year olds flipping through the dial, they see the The trucks with faces on them. And they're like, I gotta check that out. So we get new fans all the time for sure. So that's still out there.

Scott Benner 45:07
It's interesting how it works the same way for the podcast, there are people who just like find it. Nine years after it started as if it's brand new. It's really Yeah,

Rick Suvalle 45:16
for sure. And there's always a newly diagnosed family every day. So

Scott Benner 45:20
yeah, I don't That doesn't seem like it's gonna stop anytime soon. So then you get that, you get that? I guess? Time, right? How many episodes do you think you wrote on by the time it was over?

Rick Suvalle 45:32
Um, I wrote, I might have written at least 10 episodes on that. And then I was the head writer. So as a head writer, you kind of you work with the Freelancers, and you kind of help shepherd their stories along and then you rewrite all the phases. So you know, a freelancer is not going to know quite know the voices or how we like things written and you know, some story points. So we kind of go in and we kind of rewrite,

Scott Benner 45:59
okay. Does that lead to another job that leads to another job did

Rick Suvalle 46:02
you know I got that. And that led to my relationship with, with Amazon doing some development work. And I ended up working at Disney afterwards, that led to a job at Disney, the same guy who created the stinking, dirty show, he got a job as a head writer over on a Disney show called tots. And he asked me if I would be willing to go be a staff writer for him. And there's not a lot of positions in animation. It's like staff writer, head writer, and then you're either the creator or you're not. And so I said, Sure I'd, I'd love to. And it was like almost like a vacation. I was not the head writer. So I could just write scripts and help break stories with the rest of the writers. And you know, just kind of and then develop my own stuff on the side. And so while I was working there for a couple years, I sold a bunch of shows, original original ideas, or some stuff based on IP. And one of those was one of the things I was developing was Thomas on the side, Thomas and Friends, the reboot. And so that went forward. And in the middle of that a show, I had sold the DreamWorks, my newest show, do drop diaries, got picked up by Netflix. And so I kind of launched Thomas and you know, produced about 32 of the episodes and standalone movie for them. And then I went on to work on the show that I created.

Scott Benner 47:27
Okay, and this this show is coming out right now on Netflix. Yep. Well, what's it about?

Rick Suvalle 47:34
It's called the dewdrop, diaries, and dewdrops are my made up, you know, term for these little family fairies. It's a show about you know, every, every home with kids in the world has fairies, secretly helping them with the little things that can fall through the cracks. It could be, you know, you misplace your last tooth, they see it fall under the bed, and they have to get it onto the top bunk before the kid falls asleep and puts his head on top of the tooth pillow. So the Tooth Fairy gets it in time. Or it could be you left your favorite toy at the park and they got it these little tiny fairies have to bring it, you know, back. And so it's, it's a girl power show, because I've got two daughters and I was inspired by them. So but part of it was I wanted to create this kind of metaphor for little kids that can do anything because you know, a lot of us t one D parents are like, you can do anything, nothing's gonna stop you diabetes. Now, the show is not about diabetes, but it's just that spirit of feeling like I want my kids to be able to do anything so and being little tiny characters. It's a metaphor for being a kid and reaching for big goals. And so, but I felt like if it's a fairy, actually, originally, they weren't fairies. They were just little little characters that helped and dreamer said, could they be fairies? And I said, Well, let me think about it. If you give them magic in flight, you're taking away all the ingenuity and creativity they have to do to get things done. So I said, so what if we compromised, and they're fairies and training, they've got wings, but they can't fly. And they've got one magical power each one can talk to animals one's got some super strength. One has this magical melody that can lull you to sleep. And you know, it's really fun and like we're saying It's girl power. But it's also I want to do a show that I would want to watch as a parent. And so every episode opens with like an action adventure homage to some action movie like Raiders of Lost Ark. And so it's just really fun. So boys and girls can both watch it. It's a preschool show but has fun kind of stakes and danger to it. And yeah, so so I'm really excited about that. And you know, part of me being a T one D dad also was I've got this kind of the secret agenda was having as I hired a T one D on my staff as a production coordinator. I also hired Brec Bassinger, the star of CWA star girl who was a T one D actress and JDRF ambassador, I got her to be I, one of the characters in the show, okay. And she was great. Like, you know, I was DreamWorks. And oh, we asked her to read. I'm like, can't we just make her the offer? Like, and she's like, No, I'll read and it's my birthday. And I'm gonna read on my birthday for you. And I was like, how awesome is Breck? And so that was great. She She read and got the part. And I hope if we get a second season, that I want Nick Jonas to play a dad character on the show as well.

Scott Benner 50:26
Nice. Oh, that's excellent. Man. Is there? Like you said, there's no diabetes in the show? Have you thought about ways to do it? And it just doesn't work? Like, didn't they mean? Like, is it is it too Nishi? For

Rick Suvalle 50:38
people? It is, to a certain extent, I mean, especially in the preschool space. It's, it's too much to explain, especially to kids that don't have it, right. And so, you know, oh, I've got this constant glucose monitor my blood sugar is low. It's really hard to show and especially in that younger age. And even if you look at like, Pixar, a scene read, there's two characters with CGM and pumps. But there was never mentioned of it, right? Because it would slow down story. So it's hard. But if you look at like, the Babysitter's Club on Netflix, I think was Netflix. They had that that has a T Wendy character, and they talk about the blood sugars. And they did a pretty good representation of type one diabetes better than I've seen out there. So it really is hard to, you know, like a preschool space. If you wanted to show a disability, it's probably someone in a wheelchair kind of thing so that they can kind of identify and see it, it just has to do with the comprehension thing at that younger age. I wish there was a way to show it and you know, spread awareness that way. I had a friend who had a live action preschool show. And he was saying, Hey, we're gonna make one of the characters of type one diabetic. I said, fantastic. And he's like, so we're gonna get started debut them on the Halloween episode. What what candies? Can't they eat? Yeah, you're like, I was like, I was like, I don't think you should do a type one diabetic care?

Scott Benner 51:53
Well, maybe you could put a device on one of them and never mentioned it.

Rick Suvalle 51:57
Exactly, just like seeing red dead. I think that's a fun way to do it. And just kind of, you know, it just especially for the kids out there, I think, you know, with seeing red, you know, it's like, it's like, when you see a Dexcom in the wild, right? You know, you see someone at Disneyland and it's on their arm, and the kids are always like, oh, luck, you know. So I think it's that kind of identification. Just like, you know, you don't want it to be like the American Girl doll that has the type one diabetes and has the pump and all that stuff. But again, it is a little bit difficult for that younger age group. And so that's why I really still wanted to, you know, promote awareness by hiring Brack and hiring a type one diabetic on my, on my staff. And so, you know, and just being a T one, D dad, you know, I wanted to just whatever I can do to get the word out about so I know I'm on your show, but I'm hoping to go on mainstream, you know, nondiabetic podcast, and talk about how diabetes was an influence. Yeah. And just really kind of get awareness out that way. For you know, the people older than four years old,

Scott Benner 52:59
well, I have a suggestion for somebody to do a voice who I think has a great voice and as T one, two, from Wizards of Waverly Place, Jennifer stone.

Rick Suvalle 53:07
Yes. Yeah. She's

Scott Benner 53:08
got a great voice. That's my pitch right there. I think she was

Rick Suvalle 53:11
she was one of the two people I we, you know, I think we were circling her and Mary Mauser from, you know, she's rough, Mateos daughter and Cobra Kai, she's a T one D shirt now. And BRAC and so I think we were circling all of them for potential roles in the show. Okay,

Scott Benner 53:28
well, so I didn't have such a new idea. Nevermind.

Rick Suvalle 53:31
No. And Jennifer is actually she works her day job these days. She is a nurse at a hospital right here in Burbank. Yeah,

Scott Benner 53:37
no, I know, I've had her on the show. She was terrific. She was such an normal person that I told her when we were done. I was like, wow, that was you were so great. Like, I've I've interviewed other people who have a degree of fame. And there's sometimes like, you know, a veil between you and them. And she was just she was so cool. It doesn't surprise me actually, she has a pretty popular podcast that she started recently about the TV show that she was on, and it doesn't surprise me at all. So I don't know if you'll find this boring. But I want to understand, like the whole process of pitching a show to Netflix. Like what's that like? And how long does it take? Well,

Rick Suvalle 54:17
so initially, it's I pitched to DreamWorks directly and DreamWorks sold it to Netflix, but similar process. What if I went into Netflix directly? But I had a connection to DreamWorks, you know, a friend, a friend knew one of the executives there and they said, Oh, would you meet with Rick? And they said, Sure. So I came in with an idea. I came in with kind of a three page pitch. And I asked my next door neighbor who is, you know, visual artists to like, draw two pictures of a little tiny character with a leaf hang glider, you know, and that I would add, I bring to the pitch and they pitched it verbally and again, it was they weren't fairies at that point. So they As part of the process, and you know, they liked it, they saw something in it. And they said, Could you make it fairies? And we had that back and forth. And I said, I said, if you do it my way, I think that that'll make it work and make us both happy. And then it just becomes an evolving process there was there was a quite a few back and forth before they purchased the idea for me, right. And eventually, after a couple rounds of notes, they said, Yeah, we'd like to move forward and pay you to develop this with us. But DreamWorks takes, it takes a while, because they they do such a comprehensive pitch package. So they spent a lot of money on, you know, visual development, we did a whole animation test, we brought in, you know, an actress to do a voice test for us with the with the animated character who ended up being so great that she's one of the stars of the show. And so we had, I think it was like a 64 point, PowerPoint presentation, all with art. And so this is bigger than ever. I mean, like, I have the ability to go in and pitch three pages, something directly to a network, but, but having this big, behemoth of Dreamworks, behind me and that pedigree and they're, you know, when they make the deal, they're ready to go into production, you know, and I also had to write a pilot and a series Bible to present as part of this development process. So we had questions, you know, during the development process, the paid development process, like, well, we've got these three dewdrop best friends that live in different apartments, but they're tiny, how do they get in touch with you with each other? Do they have cell phones, and I was like, No. And I remember it was just like, in the moment of like, they have dual alerts, it's kind of like Batman's bat signal, but they shoot out these like butterflies that go and get each other. And that's part of the show. And that was just, you know, we were in the creative roll on that kind of stuff. So. So all that stuff comes together. And we, you know, we eventually go into pitch it to Netflix, and they have a first look deal there. And actually, you know, this is little inside baseball here. But like they actually passed initially, because they had another fairy show in the works. And they're like, but eventually, while we were still pitching it around town, that other ferry show fell out. And Netflix called up and said, Hey, is that still available? And we're like, yes, it is. And so we were able to set that up. But that was a development process on that one was two and a half years or two years. Until we about two and a half years. So we started production. So it's a long process, for sure, especially animation, because then you have to build all the characters you have to mock. It's a 3d CG show. So it's like modeling and rigging the characters and design. And I had meetings that were, you know, I remember having like too many hour meetings about like, the pattern of stripes on one of the characters socks. And I remember eventually going, like, so frustrated, like, Is this really what we're doing? We're, you know, eventually going, can it just be number 11? And like, number 11, they're like, Oh, you'd like number 11. That's the That's it? I'm like, Oh, wait,

Scott Benner 58:00
you're waiting for me?

Rick Suvalle 58:02
Yeah, I was like, Oh, wait, I'm the show runner, I forgot that. I could probably just, you know, tell them what I like. It was very early in the process.

Scott Benner 58:10
How many scripts do you have to have before you go to Animation?

Rick Suvalle 58:14
Ah, you before you sell it? Or once you're in the wetsuit,

Scott Benner 58:18
once you're we're making the show? I mean, you have to send the scripts off somewhere to be automated, right? So do you

Rick Suvalle 58:23
Yeah, for sure. We used a company in France called Team toe amazing animation company. But we would do so scripts are being written, a lot of it overlaps. You know, so once the scripts are written, and you know, every week, a new first draft is due, we had we had an order for 52 episodes. So you know, every, every Monday, I would have a final draft. So 52 weeks from when we start, you know, we'll have all those scripts done. And then but, you know, a week after we finished the final draft, we have a recording session, and we record the voices, and they and then a week after that, you know, I mean, more than a week after that, it takes a while. But the next stage would be we would have like a storyboard launch where we would like meet with the artists and they would kind of look at the script and ask us questions and kind of like do some drawings saying do you mean this? Do you mean that and then we go on to then they do what's called an animatic, which is kind of a moving storyboard, just all black and white sketches. And then after we get notes on that, and refine, they eventually go into animation, they'll do a what's called a a layout pass first where we kind of see those T model pose. It looks like it just a figure that doesn't move or they just move it around like a doll. You know, just so we get that kind of figure out is this the right angle for the shot and you're looking at the that kind of stuff and then they start the actual animation phase and there's a lighting phase and then there's you know,

Scott Benner 59:54
involved in all that are you like, yeah,

Rick Suvalle 59:57
as executive producer and showrunner Um, you know, I'm there for giving music score notes and meeting with the with the composer's, I'm looking at, you know, the boring part of the job is like when they make a leaf, I'm gonna get 45 different angles of a leaf to sign off on. So it's very exciting in the very beginning, but then eventually after you been doing it for a while, you're like, this. Looks like a teacup hold.

Scott Benner 1:00:22
Yeah, cat and see which one at bat. Hey, does. DreamWorks is universal, right?

Rick Suvalle 1:00:28
Yes, yeah, NBC Universal. Do

Scott Benner 1:00:30
they do a lot of animation in France, because I seem to remember Scott Moser living in France for a couple of years to make the Grinch. So I wonder if there's a lot of animation that happens there.

Rick Suvalle 1:00:40
Yeah. Oh, no. There's a lot of different animation series in France. But I mean, there's a lot of them in like Vancouver as well, a lot of places go to India and Korea. But there's quite a few in, in France.

Scott Benner 1:00:53
Yeah. No, I mean, I just don't, that's a really, like I said, I don't know if I can even explain all of that. But Scott used to be Kevin. Well, I guess Scott maybe is Kevin Smith's producer, still. But he's moved on and done some other stuff. And he made the Grinch movie. And I just remember on his Instagram for two years, he suddenly lived in France. And then the movie was ready. And then he didn't live in France anymore. I was like, Oh, that was interesting. You didn't have to go to France?

Rick Suvalle 1:01:18
No, because it was smack dab in the middle of the pandemic. So we had like, every day 9am Our time 6pm their time, we would have like, like an hour meeting to catch up and figure out what needs to be done and give notes. That kind of stuff.

Scott Benner 1:01:31
52 that's a that's a pretty good commitment. Right? 52 episodes?

Rick Suvalle 1:01:35
Yeah, it turns out to be like two Netflix season drops.

Scott Benner 1:01:39
Okay. And then do they? Is it one of those things that you think is like, is it one in donner? Do you think, though, they'll want to talk if it does well? Or do you talk about that hope

Rick Suvalle 1:01:49
is I mean, because it's Netflix, you know, they're going to be data and see how many clicks we get, and how many people watch you know, three minutes, or they watch all the way through and want to watch the next episode. So they'll need at least, you know, probably eight weeks worth of data, like to see if it's a hit. And then if it's, or it could grow, you know, somewhere in between, like, we're talking before, like, stinky dirty, could have a brand new audience, you know, you know, but they could suddenly start to grow and realize, okay, yeah, we'll pick up another season, another production season. So we'll see. I mean, my fingers are crossed. This is my baby. I mean, the show is my love letter to my daughters. And so I really want another season. And I really want to see it continue. And I have an idea on how in another production season, how to show disabilities in a different way. Not quite type one. But I think disabilities are important to be represented on screen. So I want that done. And I've got, you know, so I have ideas on where to take another season of this show,

Scott Benner 1:02:47
you just made me wonder if the people listening to my podcast know that I have to sit in meetings with advertisers and tell them my listen through rate while they're deciding if they want to buy more ads and things like that. freaking mind numbing, and somehow scary at all is like my, the last quarter of every year of my life is spent walking around on eggshells trying and trying to bring the podcast back to people for like another year. And it's you've had some you've had some sponsors have been around forever, which is great. They're very cool. Like the people who support the show are amazing at how they do it. It's the new people that come in, you know, it's a, it's a space that's becoming more and more understood, I used to deal with people who were just like, they didn't know what they were even asking me. But now, now they seem to understand that a little better. So I'm answering a bunch of questions and trying to make a podcast the same time.

Rick Suvalle 1:03:34
Right. And you also get out and you also get these advertisers are very specific to the type of podcasts you have, which is, which is nice, because you know, if you're just another movie review place, you know, you really need to, you know, hear about, you know, whatever, you know, hot hot pot is popular these days.

Scott Benner 1:03:50
I do have as it's gotten larger. I do have like athletic greens and some other stuff that you hear and more podcasts are coming to me, which is terrific and exciting. But you're not wrong. Like there's a lot of comfort, knowing that it's a nice show, and that the advertisers are I mean, I don't know another way to put this, they don't have a lot of options. Right? I'm kind of I'm kind of the guy. So it is very helpful, but it's still no less stressful. Like, you know, sure. I've been doing this for nine years. And if I see two days go the wrong way on downloads. I'm like walking around the house like it's over, forgot it. My wife's like, isn't it Easter? I'm like, that doesn't matter. They could listen. So alright, I feel for you. I hope you can avoid that and just sit back and enjoy the ride. What do your girls think of the show?

Rick Suvalle 1:04:39
They're, I mean, they're a little old for it now. I mean, but I think about I came up with six years ago and it's finally coming out but still they they're great. And my older daughter is interested in animation as a potential career. So so she kind of likes checking out the animatics and I'm actually going to her high school animation class next month to kind of show you The process, you know, I told you all those steps, I'm going to show the opening this I've got this great like opening on the pilot where it's just like, you see little fairy running from like the boulder in the cave from Raiders Lost Ark. And then she jumps out into the light and you realize she was behind the couch and the baby just pushed the soccer ball after her thanks. And so I basically am showing all the different stages of that one, you know, 92nd clip to the class saying, Okay, here's the animatic. And here's the initial drawings. And here's the T pose phase for layout. Here's the animation. Here's the lighting and so, but they did it. I mean, my little, my little one has not so little anymore. She's taller than me now. She's 14, and she's in that very grumpy. Just a teenager, and she does grunts. So I don't know if she likes it. But I think she thinks it's cool that her dad does this, but she won't say anything to me about it. Yeah. When you

Scott Benner 1:05:57
do a gag, like the Raiders thing? Is that for adults watching, is it just for you? Or is it like is that your way of like kind of secretly showing a little kid something that you love?

Rick Suvalle 1:06:08
It's, I mean, it's all of that. I mean, it's like I really want I mean, whenever you try and do a joke, and in especially the younger thing, it has to play on their level. So you can't do you know, verbal, you know, puns as much or you know, verbal jokes that they're not gonna understand, they'll understand, you know, the, you know, they fall on their face. And that's funny. But you know, so that kind of thing. But they're seeing the danger of this giant ball after them going with wide eyes. They're like, you know, this is crazy. But as the parent who's co watching, they're like, oh, my gosh, that's really the Lost Ark. Or they're like, oh, my gosh, that's Tron is that Tron? We're watching? Right? You know, it's like, so they're, they're kind of having a fun time. I like to give those wings to parents. I mean, I just, there's so many shows out there that don't do that, that, you know, the parents like, this is terrible. Why does my kid like this, ya know, but it's like, you want them just kind of, you know, while they're, you know, while you're doing laundry to go stop for a second to go. That's pretty funny. You know, how how long it

Scott Benner 1:07:04
can stick with you too, I can sing, I think I could probably sing the opening to out of the box. And, you know, a couple of other, I mean, a Little Einsteins theme is still running, you know, so it is nice to give something, you know that if I'm in the room with it, at least I can. Maybe you should slip in a couple of esoteric back and forth, the kids will stare through it. But

Rick Suvalle 1:07:26
ya know, it's great. So I do try and do as much you know, humor that I think the adults will watch. And the show is technically what they call Bridge, which is like a little preschool aged up a little bit. So we have a little bit of that danger. But you know, we also have to be careful, like, we don't want to like to see the kid climb on the chair with books on the chair to read something I have to be, you know, cognizant of those type of things.

Scott Benner 1:07:49
Yeah, that's very interesting. Do you? So this is so then you're working on the show. Now, does that preclude you from doing other things? Or how's your

Rick Suvalle 1:07:58
does? I mean, like, I have been exclusive to DreamWorks on past kind of the exclusive phase right now. So they need me definitely during writing phases and certain phases of production to be totally exclusive. I'm always allowed to develop my own stuff, that the question became, like, if it's one of those turns into a job, but development takes so long as we were talking about how it took me two and a half years, you got to get a job in between. So I try and develop a lot of stuff. And but um, I've reached the point in my career where I can probably work on two shows at the same time, you know, maybe take a little bit of a backseat, and we're like consulting producer and one of them and give kind of, you know, very specific notes or sit into like a color correction session or something like that. So it's

Scott Benner 1:08:41
interesting, because I don't think people think about that. I mean, I know I hadn't in the past, but I'm assuming it's, it's not like, it's not like the show runs for this many years. And you get paid every week, right? You still have bills, and you have to live and somebody wrote you a check. And now that part's over, I assume. So now you're doing the work. And you have to keep yourself moving. Like that's,

Rick Suvalle 1:09:02
yeah, for sure. And like when I was exclusive, you know, I had finished the writing phase, but I was still exclusive at that point for looking at animatics. And, and animation and giving notes and that kind of stuff. But I did I got an opportunity. My old show, Thomas and Friends, you know, they said, Hey, we want someone to write a Christmas movie for us next year. Would you be willing to do it? And I just asked DreamWorks Hey, can you give me permission in my contract to work on that movie? And they said, Sure. And so you just it's just got to be aboveboard. You know, if I came in and said, Hey, I want to also show run another show for your competitor, they might be a little less likely to say yes to that

Scott Benner 1:09:40
one. No, thank you. If you have a good idea, give it to us. Is that the idea? Yeah, exactly. But now

Rick Suvalle 1:09:45
like I said, I'm not exclusive at the moment. And so which is great. That's why I'm doing a freelances for other shows coming out. And you know, while I wait to see if we're gonna get picked up for another season,

Scott Benner 1:09:56
it's interesting. It's interesting, isn't it? How everything is changed like when my Kids were a little, like a Pixar movie, for example, like DreamWorks and Pixar were like putting movies out in the theaters constantly. And now it's almost like that. It's not really the focus anymore. Like it's almost like movies come out in theaters as an addition to their being dropping on somebody's streaming service or something like that.

Rick Suvalle 1:10:19
Yeah, I mean, it's very strange. I mean, we've been talking about this lately, because we're talking about getting, you know, talking to DreamWorks about publicity for the show. And like, why haven't we done it yet? I mean, it'll be out there by the time this thing airs. But they The thing is, people don't have the same attention span anymore. So you know, you don't see I like when I was a kid, you know, you would see a trailer for a movie coming out next year, like, you know, 12 months away, or the big summer tentpole, you're getting a Christmas, they don't do that anymore, because no one's going to remember and they don't they only care about the now. So the bulk of publicity for my show is going to happen once it airs, or like in the days leading up, but they'll drop a trailer like a month before. And then in the days leading up, you know, there might be a little bit but the bulk of it's going to happen after because we don't want parents to go oh my gosh. This dewdrop diary sounds perfect for my kid. Where can I watch it? Oh, it's not out yet. Yeah. Forgotten.

Scott Benner 1:11:18
It makes sense. It really does. I, I'm always talking with people about, like, there's so much content in the podcast. And it's so relevant to people. But if I don't keep repackaging it and showing it back up, they start thinking it's old. And I'm like, No, there's, there's a conversation that lasts about 90 minutes about how to Bolus for the fat and french fries. I don't need to do it again. It's right there like it, you know, go use that one. It's interesting. I always have that feeling like if it wasn't for, but at the same time, if it wasn't for that, if that's not how people's minds work, then we'd all be watching mash, though, because that was fine. That was That was great. You know, like, why don't we just do this over and over again. So it's tough, because when you're creating it, you want people to enjoy it. And when you're consuming it, you're like, Where's, where's new and more, I just miss movies. I grew up going to movies, and there's a beautiful movie theater two miles from my house that is sitting absolutely dormant with weeds growing out of the parking lot. And it's hard. You know, it's so sad. Yeah. So. And then in the theaters, you do go to now we're all like, I don't I don't know how to put it. But it's not quite right. Like it's digital. But it doesn't look great. And it's not about the experience of being at the theater. And I don't know, it feels like a thing that's, I wish would come back a little bit. But I might say, yeah, for sure. Anyway, I'll make a bunch of money one day, I'm gonna open up a drive in that that'll be it.

Rick Suvalle 1:12:41
I love the drive. We took the kids when they were little I remember when they when one of my when my little one was first diagnosed for like, what we just wanted to do something with them that we could control and be with them. And like, let's go to the drive in. And there's a few out here in Los Angeles. So that was just I just remember being great night.

Scott Benner 1:12:56
Yeah, we used to my wife used to get off the train even after we were married on Fridays, and we would just rush home get changed real quick drive over, like sit around in the back of the car and watch a movie. And it was fantastic. But anyway, to your point, everybody is moving so quickly that I mean, though we're not even measuring things, as did I turn it on? It's like, did I stay? Like who would have I've walked out of two movies in my entire life. Like, honestly, too, and I'm almost embarrassed to tell you I hated Edward. And I did not like Robin Hood Men in Tights. Those were the two movies. I just got up and I was like, I'm okay. I don't need this. Thank you. But other than that, once you're there, you'd made a commitment. And you you'd sit and watch. You know, I feel like

Rick Suvalle 1:13:36
yeah, there's so much content on television now and streaming that, you know, like, if I'm not drawn in by the first episode, I'm not watching anymore. You know, it's like before you I'll give it one or two episodes, maybe three. And now I'm like, not holding my attention. I'm done.

Scott Benner 1:13:50
I actually, now it's valuable for people to give you a recommendation. Because then you think well, maybe I maybe I should make it to the third episode. They keep saying get to the third episode. But yeah, that's really interesting. So is there anything we haven't covered? Anything that you want to talk about that? We haven't?

Rick Suvalle 1:14:09
Not really, I mean, this has been great. I'm just really excited to talk to you. And like, I've been a fan of the podcast for a while. And so I was excited. When you know, I reached out to you and you were like, Yeah, let's let's chat.

Scott Benner 1:14:25
I couldn't believe it. I was like, I was like the guy with the Arden daughter. He's back. I had no idea what you did really like at that point. I do have a question. Maybe you don't know the answer to it, though. At some point, I imagine you go to your daughter and say, Hey, there's another little girl named Arden. She has diabetes, blah, blah, blah. Does she give a crap or does she just like, Oh, that's interesting.

Rick Suvalle 1:14:45
I think well, I mean, at the time when I told her she's like, that was really cool. I mean, I do remember her saying, wow. But it's like it wasn't like, you know, hey, can we be friends? Or you know, and I think it was pre I mean, the kids were too young to have Instagram like now it's like mind honors, like, you know, she just got into UC San Diego. And it's like, all the people are an Instagram and she's meeting new potential roommates that way, you know, like, and so, you know, back then it was like, Okay, that's great. We did a Facebook message or something, you and I, and I think that's where it ended. But I think she was definitely curious. I thought that was cool because she had never met another art. And now she goes to high school with another art and which is always interesting to me. Oh, that's crazy.

Scott Benner 1:15:23
Oh, that's very, very cool. Yeah, I actually watched art and do the same thing. Getting off to college she met, they found roommates, through Instagram became friends, they all sussed each other out for a while made decisions and everything. And it was it was really cool. Like, even just a few years prior to that my son did it over the phone. And now, you know, it just changes. So what is she going for you able to tell me?

Rick Suvalle 1:15:46
Yeah, she's, I think the degree they have there. It's called Media Arts. So it's kind of some kind of California crunchy type of film degree where you kind of learn philosophies, but you also take still photography, and you do learn film, there might be a little bit of animation, but it's really pushing like, you know, whatever social issue you want into the films that you do and the projects that you do. It's very, like I said, there's a little crunchy in terms of that respect. It's not like straight film school. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:16:22
I hear what you're saying, you're going to be hiring your daughter in four years, like, Oh, my God,

Rick Suvalle 1:16:25
I hope so. I mean, she's such a great artist that I would definitely use her for character design, if I could. Isn't that interesting?

Scott Benner 1:16:30
Where they're so my, my art and through growing up, maybe there was one year, she seemed to put some effort into an art class. And other than that, just not she was never that person. And leading into her senior year, she says, I want to go to art school to learn how to design clothing. And we were like, you don't sew? And you don't, you've never drawn anything. And I was like, Are you sure? Because our backup was pre law. She's like, okay, that or I'm gonna be a lawyer. And we were like, Okay, and so we supported her, obviously. But when you send her off, you're like, I wonder how this is gonna go, you know? And she sent a drawing back to us. And I was like, wow, is she gonna like, like, power her way through this. And I don't know, like she when she first got there. She's like, I don't know if I can do this. She was a little shaky. And I told her a story. And I sent her a picture. This is going to be very strange for some people. But I, I sent her a picture that Howard Stern drew on the air about 20 years ago. It's a character of somebody he works with. And I sent a picture that he drew of a field near his house in the last couple of years, because he's taken to painting and this sort of in his 60s. And I said, the same person who drew this horrible caricature, painted this. And I said, I've heard him say that anybody can teach themselves how to do this. And so I said, I don't see why you couldn't either. And she sent us something back a couple of months later, and I was like, why I can't find it, show it to you before we go. But I was like, I'm like, Oh, my God, you did this? And she said, yeah, she's like, she just sits in her room and practices like, and she doesn't even want to draw. She's just, that's part of the curriculum, she has to learn how to draw first. And I think she's finally getting to the sewing machines now, but I didn't know what else to do. Because it's, it seems like a thing. I think it seems like a thing, like what you do, or even this thing I'm doing probably seems like magic to people. But it's not like I taught myself to do this. You know, I I taught myself what the equipment was that I taught myself that I recorded, and I listened. I was like, That sucks. I wouldn't listen to this. I'm gonna do it this way. Like, I thought if I could teach myself this, maybe she could teach this to herself, too. So that's very cool. So I want to wish your daughter a lot of luck. And thank

Rick Suvalle 1:18:46
you so so funny. There's so much light because the same thing like my daughter, Arden was taking some animation classes. I never knew that she was even interested in drawing, and then she starts goes into Rome starts doing some drawing, and I'm like, this isn't half bad. And meanwhile, she's like, and if that doesn't work out, pre law, overlays, same thing, same thing, and I was like, Oh, wow. So but the she was gonna go to this other school that has a very animation heavy major. And, and we were all set to go to this expensive private school for her and for next year, and then she turns to me and goes, I don't know if I like the actual animating part like is like learning all that software. I just kind of like to draw and I was like, well, this school is great for that. But if you're interested in like, other stuff, you got to do a better school. Yeah. And and they also have, you can do the visual arts stuff at the other school. And then we went down there and looked I was saying earlier this weekend, just like oh my God, I feel like I belong at this place. And so I was I was happy to hear that.

Scott Benner 1:19:51
Yeah, it's very well organised incredibly comfortable where she is and she definitely she definitely found the right spot. So it was awesome. Yeah, I It's tough to because my son is just like he just wanted to play baseball. Like I mean, he, I think he only went to college, because he was on a baseball team if I'm being perfectly honest. And he's like, I don't know what to major in. And I was, you know, you talk to him, he didn't know. So I was like, well, you're good at math, like do something mathy. And maybe we'll figure it out from there. And he comes out with this, like quantitative econ degree. And he's like, I don't know what to do with this. And I was like, Are you kidding me? So he found a job. He's working for a subsidiary of Sony right now doing like back end sports stuff. So like, all the all the number stuff that you see on television, when you're watching almost every major sporting event is happening, you know, where he works. And, and he started there. But you know, I don't know, I don't know how kids pick something to go off to college and do I mean, you went to school, but like, with what like saying, like, I'd like to write gaming. Yeah,

Rick Suvalle 1:20:59
I mean, I didn't know I had no skills. I mean, I made a video like a spoof of Ghostbusters, when I was in sixth grade, you know, with a big deck to deck video system and got my dad's finger in front of the lens half the time, you know,

Scott Benner 1:21:12
have you ever heard me tell the story on here where I newly married, and I make this announcement to Kelly one morning that I have this idea for a movie and I'm not going to go to work, I'm going to sit home and write it. And I hash out on there all day. And I hash this all out. I put I've probably put 10 pages together. And she gets home and I'm like, here it is. And she reads it and she goes, have you ever read a Bridge to Terabithia? And I said no. Why she was what you're writing it right now. And I was like, Are you kidding me? It was such a down moment. I had this like this house. And there was a fence in the back and beyond the fence in the woods where blah, blah, blah, doing all this? And she's like, Yeah, that's a book.

Rick Suvalle 1:21:56
And that's, that's the hazard of screenwriting is like every time you have that great idea. Like, as you're starting to execute it, you'll read in the trades that like oh, so and so is making that movie. Yeah.

Scott Benner 1:22:08
You always hear about comedians texting each other, like you don't have a joke about like this premise, do you? Because, you know, that's exactly how I felt. And I have to tell you, that really kind of crushed me like because I was like, I only had like this one day, like how many more times is the scroll going to be okay with what I just said to her like, I'm not going to work today, I'm gonna write an idea down. And so and we just like I said, it just there was nobody around us that lived in that space. And so it just felt magical, not not tangible. And anyway, I'm lucky that I got to do any of this stuff. Honestly. That's pretty cool. Well, Rick, I appreciate you doing this very much. I know you can't tell me exactly when when it's coming out. But when people are hearing this podcast, your show will be available on Netflix. Yeah,

Rick Suvalle 1:22:52
they'll be able to find it on Netflix. And I think they're gonna do some kind of big announcement about like Netflix family summer, but that'll already be announced before this. But yeah.

Scott Benner 1:23:02
Oh, that's very cool. Well, when if whenever that announcement comes out, get in touch with me. And I will. I will. We'll put it in the private Facebook group as well and let everybody know what's happening. So awesome. Yeah. Awesome. Thank you. Maybe we'll get your first 40,000 listeners or viewers. Awesome. That'd be amazing. Better. Very cool to talk to you. Hold on one second for me. Okay. Sure. Thanks.

A huge thanks to Rick for coming on the show telling us about his kids his life and his new show do drop diaries. Don't miss it on Netflix. Not only can you support Ric and the show and type on actors, but get this Rick said he told me online just a couple of weeks ago, if the show gets a second season, he's going to let me be a voice in it. I'm going to be a fairy. I mean, if you guys go watch do drop diaries right now. Get going. What are you doing? Don't you want to hear me be a fairy here. I'll do a line from after the music. I'll do it. I have to thank Omni pod for sponsoring this episode. Omni pod.com forward slash juice box and of course drink ag one.com forward slash juice box links in the show notes. Links at juicebox podcast.com. Okay, I have an idea. Hold on a second. Stay with me.

Okay, I have the trailer here for dewdrop diaries. I'm gonna do some lines from it. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I guess that's one of the fairies. The fairies got to be an adult here somewhere.

There there's a father he says. Hmm, someone must be looking out for me today. I can do it. Look how good I sounded. Alright, let's keep going. I'm gonna say you're right. Thanks. I can't be a kid. Like my voice is too deep, right? I could be an animal. I can definitely be an animal's voice. What kind of banana nor could I be get dog. Or what else? You guys aren't much help when I can't talk to you directly. There's a baby. How cool would it be if the baby had a really deep voice in its head? Rick? When the when the baby thought to itself he sounded like me. That'd be funny. Hold on, what else do I have here? I don't think I can play a fairy. My voice I can't get my voice that high. I don't think you want that. You want my nice natural voice? I'm gonna have to be a parent. Alright, that wasn't as helpful as I thought. You know what I'll do here? I was like, it's recess restarting. Give me a second. Fairy show. Dialog. Hmm. That's Midsummer Night's Dream. Hold on a second. What's the very famous fairy? The little one Tinkerbell Tinkerbell script there. There we go. To them. Do you do them? Oh, a narrator I can be a narrator for sure. Have you ever wondered how nature gets its glow? Who gives it light and color as the seasons come and go? I can totally do that. I'm like that guy. With the guy. You know what I mean? The books were rhymes. Anyway, I could do that. I could definitely be an animal. I could do narration or I could be a parent. I have an idea. I have to hold on. But it tells you chat TTP, right. A 32nd promo for the new Netflix show. Do drop diaries. Okay. We'll we'll let the robots take care of this. And then this will be my my coming out. Right. So here we go. I don't know if any of this is right. So get ready for a heartwarming journey like no other Netflix presents the highly anticipated series dewdrop diaries. How was that? Then it cuts to a picturesque town it says then the narrator comes back in the charming town of Douville where dreams come to life. Follow the Extraordinary Adventures of four unlikely friends. Meet Lily the curious bookworm ON HOLD ON A tripped up meet Lily the curious bookworm Max the mich. Alright, so my first read Max the what? Max is the mischievious Max the Miss. Okay, Max, the mischievious inventor meow the talented artists and Ben the adventurous nature lover. Join them. By the way. I don't know if any of these names right this Chechi TP could be out of its mind. Join them as they unravel captivating mystery, solve puzzles and discover the magic hidden within their town. With each episode. Prepare for unexpected twists, heartwarming friendships and lessons that will inspire viewers of all ages. Right? binge watch the enchanting series and let your imagination soar. How was that? Was it good? To be honest with me? Could I do this? I feel like I've got a nice secondary income idea here. I can be a voice actor. I would start a bit Hello. Hi, how are you? I'm Scott. What do you do? Oh, I make a podcast and I do I do voice acting? Yes. I'm very famous. I'm gonna do drop diaries. That's how that's how I'm gonna talk to people. If you guys watch do drop diaries and give them a second season. I have to be honest, I just listened back to it. I don't think I should push my voice so hard. Rick, I'm going to need to be directed. That's for sure. I'm I'm a novice, but I'll come around quickly. I just think with a little bit of direction. And just a little prompting and maybe teach me how to sit up straight. And I have this little thing here. My molift gets a little wet. Like if I could figure that out. Right? Right. I just need a little direction. And then I could be the man. I could totally be the baby's voice or the dad or I mean obviously you already have a dad. So you're gonna need a neighbor. Like so get a neighbor. I'm going to be the neighbor. This is it. I love this. You want me to go slower. I can talk slower, Rick up to speed up and be faster. I can do that too. I'm very versatile.

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